HM3: More armor tops

I've just posted eight new Tops-MaleFantasyArmor items to the HeroMachine 3 set:

I had planned to do more on these, but the file's already the fifth largest out of everything so far, behind only the BodyAlternate, Fonts, Companions, Auras, and Floors, and I am reluctant to balloon this thing up too much. I feel like the major sorts of armor are pretty well represented at this point -- lots of plate and leather, and a fair amount of "other", and while more is better, I think it's probably enough. I am bored with drawing them, frankly, and I haven't seen anything in the reference suggestions so far that screamed that it just HAD to go in.

So, barring anything huge you feel like is missing, I'm going to move on starting next week, once I'm all the way moved to Colorado. I'm open to suggestions as to what the next set ought to be. So far "rifles" has gotten a lot of push, so that's the leader at this point. If you would rather see something else first, by all means pipe up in the comments.

I haven't been pushing the items very hard for the last month or so, and I apologize for that. Once I'm settled in at the new place, I want to make item generation once again the top priority, and try for another massive, sustained push for a couple of months to really flesh things out.

70 Responses to HM3: More armor tops

  1. Jake says:

    I’d like some more backgrounds, particularly in the Sky section. The more I use them, the more I realize how little we have to work with.

    I’d be up for a lot of miscellaneous items. Today, I realize that there isn’t a trashcan in HM3. Just seems weird.

    I have a feeling it is going to be rifles though. People have been wanting those for awhile.

  2. NEON_N64 says:

    That first armor is amazing!!

  3. Paul says:

    Jeff,

    are there plans to convert the Storm tropper tops to HM3?

  4. luke says:

    you should do some armor legware

  5. Sieglinde says:

    Looks amazing – only the free layering doesn’t work yet, but what pretty items!

  6. Hammerknight says:

    I agree with Luke, armor legware would be nice to go with the tops.

  7. Tim says:

    No problem Jeff. Moving isn’t really easy on anyone 🙂

    I have to say these new sets of armor look sooooooo badass!

    Although, I would like to see female armor, I know you’re bored with drawing them for now, so I’ll throw my vote in for rifles 😀

    Now if rifles are next, would they include assault rifles or sniper rifles? Or both?

  8. Fyzza says:

    I’d have to say i’d like some new legwear or maybe some new items like a pipe bomb, or a shoulder-mounted gun/cannon.

  9. Jeff Hebert says:

    Jake (1): Personally I am strongly motivated to do Miscellaneous next — the mugs and flag poles and ripped up Yield signs and cigars and whatnot. Those would be fun to draw and widely applicable, whereas rifles are pretty much just your modern warrior types.

    Paul (3): If they don’t fall into some other category, I’ll add them into the Tech set.

    Tim (5): If it’s rifles, it’ll be basically for any larger-than-pistols gun.

  10. thor1066 says:

    After rifles, how about capes. there’s the classic superman, batman, big flowing Mcfarland spawn type, captain marvel over the shoulder, thor w/the cape front as part of the design, different collars like j’onn j’onzz and doc strange. lots of room to have fun in.

  11. PCFDPGrey says:

    Jeff, welcome to Colorado. Contact the Pool Cleaners some time, and we can point you in the direction of some of the cool things to do in our fair state.

  12. Me, Myself & I says:

    I like the idea of miscellaneous items as well because they are more flexible. I certainly won’t complain if rifles is next but I will eagerly wait whatever is comes after rifles.

    I also second thor1066’s request for capes. There are already a few capes present but a little more variety would be great.

  13. Tim says:

    Follow up question, Jeff. Again if the majority of the community votes for rifles, would you consider including the extra attachments that associate with rifles or would should they be saved for a later date?

    What I mean by “attachments” includes different scopes, mini shotgun / grenade launcher attachments, flashlights, sound suppression muzzle breaks, etc?

    I’m just wondering if you would consider them if anyone requested them at this point. 🙂

  14. pdubbs says:

    I don’t know if this is the place for requests but I was thinking of one more thing to add to tops. A straight jacket. Maybe two versions if thats possible, one unstrapped like in HM 2.5 and the other with the sleeves strapped.

    And i think misc would be good too, and to add to that section maybe an actual pair of handcuffs that we can put on belts or coming out of pouches or in hands. Or maybe I should try and win a contest and suggest these lol

  15. Jeff Hebert says:

    Tim (11): I don’t have a problem doing such items Tim, but I always have to try to balance out the number of complete items I can fit into a set before running out of space (either due to file size, like with armor, or sheer number of items that will fit in the preview boxes like with Insignia). My gut tells me that the purely extraneous pieces like scopes and silencers that are not necessarily integral to a specific gun design should go into a separate set, like ItemRightGunPieces or something.

  16. Jeff Hebert says:

    I hadn’t thought about capes, that’s an interesting idea.

  17. Brian says:

    All the ideas are good personally I would like to see more legwear

  18. Tim says:

    I agree with ya Jeff. Separating the gun pieces from the actual weapons would be the best way to go. I’ll personally hold off of the gun attachment requests for now.

    As you mentioned, with the limited file sizes, separating them would give us more items for both sets. More rifles to fit in one set and more available attachments for another. Hopefully everyone else won’t mind having them separated. “crosses fingers”

    Although it appears the misc. set has the lead so far. If that’s the case, I don’t mind waiting 🙂

  19. Tim says:

    Legwear is closing the gap as well hehe 😀

  20. Hailey says:

    Hmm, could you add more things like jeans and nerdy kinda stuff like Starfleet uniforms or t-shirts with funny messages?

  21. Reid says:

    Rifles especially version 2.5 conversions please
    Still would like to see scuba and other diving equipment
    Keep up the great work

  22. Jake says:

    @Reid: There are already flippers, oxygen tanks, and goggles. All you have to do is rig that with an oxygen mask and you are good to go. Maybe rig together a hose to the tank.

    I’m glad people are down for the miscellaneous items, though I’m definitely fine with Legwear too. I think we could have an entire section of just shorts.

  23. redvector says:

    I’d be down with some more leg wear to work with.

  24. Solander says:

    Like the new armours Jeff, excellent work! As for the next thing, I vote for rifles!

  25. Gargoyle323 says:

    Nice job on the new armors,Jeff! I love trying to find interesting ways to use them. I would vote for more legging to match up with the armors.I also like the idea of more capes.Keep up the good work!

  26. Darth_Neko says:

    I would love miscellaneous items, as long as you brought back the Yield sign that looked it was ripped right out of the ground…. That thing was freaking sweet! XD

  27. Sefy says:

    Amazing job Jeff! Keep on the awesomeness flowing!

    and just a small question:
    Would it be possible to save the images in
    the wide screen mode?

    would it be possible to add also a dragon head under insignia or misc or animal heads maybe?

    something that can help one create like a dragon head shield like:
    http://www.gamebanshee.com/showshot.php?/baldursgateii/equipment/images/dragonscaleshieldplus2.jpg

    maybe sort of similar to these:
    http://www.the9thgate.com/Dragon%20wall%20mount.jpg
    http://www.baseinchina.com/up_files/images/2009517/633781756722130448-Wholesale-Wholesale-Pewter-Dragon-Head-Dog-Tag-Pendant-Necklace.jpg

    and how about a blade like:
    http://northstarzone.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/46BK505.jpg

  28. Haxxx says:

    I can’t find those tops.:-(
    The fur one looks so awesome but where are they in the HeroMachine?

    I actually would like to see more items that work on other body type than “male standard”.

  29. Jake says:

    Haxxx, you can find them under Tops-MaleFantasyArmor. They should be the very last ones.

  30. Haxxx says:

    I searched there… Couldn’t find them

  31. Danny Beaty says:

    Famale Body Armor.

  32. Worf says:

    Voting for Miscellaneous, then capes, then legwear

  33. Fabien says:

    I propose for the next : Male Uniforms in Tops. Yes. Modern uniform, Napoleonic like, hussard, fantasy or weird uniforms ….

  34. Jeff Hebert says:

    Haxx, if it’s not showing up you need to refresh the cache in your browser. And if THAT doesn’t work, the file’s cached by your internet provider, give it a few hours and it ought to appear in TopsMaleFantasyArmor.

  35. the creator says:

    i go for legwear, Rifles and then miscellaneous

  36. Connor S. says:

    I want more pants and sh*t and some leg armor sets. We really don’t have much to work with there, and I always find myslef stuck with the same pants every time.

  37. Connor S. says:

    I really don’t think misc. is needed in HM3 at this moment, as we have a cigar mouth, and I can make a candle out of 3 insignias, and 2 energy. (Use a long rectangle and put a squashed circle on top, then use a short rectangle with width of 1 for stem, and a bright blast of light for the candle flame, while using that fireball thingy (same color as candle) for the melted part. It’s not perfect, but I think we can hold off on the miscellaneous for a while.

  38. Sieglinde says:

    Will there be a possibility to save without Printscreen?

    http://i684.photobucket.com/albums/vv207/liu8/HH/VetinariN.png

    You made a perfect Vetinari head!

  39. Jeff Hebert says:

    Sieglinde (38): You can do that now … Just use the Save as JPG or PNG buttons (camera icons with a J or P) in HeroMachine 3. If those don’t work, make sure you turn off all popup blockers.

    If you mean, use those for making JPGs and PNGs in widescreen format, yes, that’s something I want to do down the line.

  40. paul says:

    I’d vote for more leg wear…a nice set of leather pants (Modern and Low tech) would do nicely.

  41. thejay says:

    Jeff, what about a long-sleeve chainmail? It kills me that there isn’t one yet.
    And if you can, add the sleeves separately.
    Oh! and plate armor sleeves is a must too.
    The designs you have so far are awesome, by the way.

  42. Oquies says:

    I would like to see more back panel items. Capes, tails, jet packs, things like that.

  43. Kaldath says:

    my top 3 of what I’d like to see next in order of preferance is as Follows

    Fantasy Armor Legwear

    Caps

    Misc Item

    @Darth_Neko(#26): That Yeild Sign is already in HM3 under Items Right, Blunts

    Infact here is a character I made some time ago using that sign:

    http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll49/Kaldath/Psych.png

  44. Kaldath says:

    Urrm, Thats Suppose to be Capes, not Caps

  45. The Imp says:

    I agree with the capes suggestion, that’s a good idea.

    2nd choice would be more spandex designs, tops & bottoms.

    3rd choice, hmm, miscellaneous items I guess.

  46. dragonknighe says:

    one word faces

  47. Fabien says:

    My choices :

    1 -Tops Males uniforms
    2 – shoulders fantasy
    3 – Headgear Helmets
    4 – Ears – Horns

  48. dazed_and_confused says:

    Jeff, what about arms and forearms? I think this is one of the biggest things missing. We have some amazing Chestplates and shoulder armor, but nothing covering the part from elbows to shoulders, and just a few gloves for the forearms. Also, I second the suggestion of more options on lower body armor. It’s just that you did such and amazing job on all these chestplates that I think it would be a shame leaving the “sleeves” part off. Just my 2 cents.

  49. Jeff Hebert says:

    I’ve thought about doing a “Tops-Sleeves” section, yeah. Or maybe under Shoulders?

  50. Gargoyle323 says:

    I am having the same problem as Haxxx was having on not being able to find the new armors. I have tried refreshing the page and rebooting the computer ever since you posted them. Not sure what to do.Any suggestions would be most welcomed!

  51. chance says:

    how about tweaking the interface to allow the separated item to come out in a pull down screen like have the full item then have a button that when you click it it shows the individual parts that make it up also i think cloaks might be a good idea.

  52. Gargoyle323 says:

    Hooray! The new armors have shown up.Now I can go play with them!!!I was starting to think something was wrong with my server,but all is good now.

  53. dazed_and_confused says:

    Jeff, my humble suggestion would be to leave it in a “tops-sleeves” section. I think it wouldn’t be very intuitive for it to be under shoulders. Unless you turned Shoulders into “Arms”, I dunno…

  54. Jeff Hebert says:

    Dazed (53): That’s actually a really good idea. I may have to post that and see what people think. Turning Shoulder to Arm, that has real potential … I like it!!

  55. Dennis89 says:

    Hey Jeff, might impressed with the armor, but since it seems like rifles has it, do you think it could be possible to make female armor or be able to convert the male armor into female. I would also like to see jewelry. Mainly with me being an author I use this site to help establish my character designs and I usually go off of what I create here.

  56. Dennis89 says:

    Sorry just thought of something I would also like to see more legwear (pants wise) and shoes/boots, because it is hard to match up certain groups because of sizing, style, etc., I would also like to see a wider range of coats for both male and female tops and outerwear because there was this one set of tops that I really liked on HM2 and that was the pirate set I used that shirt a hella lot

  57. Sieglinde says:

    Can we get a full body for males too? It’s a pain to put together just a base! And “color all skin” doesn’t work on feet.

  58. Fyzza says:

    Sieglinde, look at the first item in body malestandard.
    If you want a body like at the end of femalestandard, then you can just put them together yourself. Seriously, it isn’t hard to just put together 6 pieces. Color all skin doesn’t work on feet because it’s mainly shoes. If it did, you’d end up with skin color shoes for your creation.

  59. Me, Myself & I says:

    I thought these might make a good addition to footware.

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6781672/Footware.bmp

  60. Ian says:

    I think that there should be a female fantasy armor option on Heromachine3.

  61. Iegres says:

    might I suggest more blasters or star wars related things? I felt there weren’t much of any.

  62. Iegres says:

    one other thing. I couldn’t find any clothing that fit the less muscular male figure. all the clothing just made him look bigger than he was.

  63. daryl says:

    please add assassins creed armour

  64. laura says:

    standard chainmail?

  65. Jeff Hebert says:

    Laura (64): There are two chainmail patterns under the “Patterns” tab. Just pick a likely looking shirt (there are at least two in TopsMaleStandard) and apply one of the patterns to it.

  66. laura says:

    Ok. I meant long chainmail, like in lord of rings…

  67. Jeff Hebert says:

    Try adding in a long skirt from Legwear and again applying the chainmail pattern to that. Put a belt over the join between the top and the leggings and you should be good to go.

  68. Me, Myself & I says:

    @laura

    Here is an example of what Jeff was suggesting. I basically did alsmost exactly what he said.

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6781672/MMI-Crusader.bmp

  69. laura says:

    nr. 1 is great!

  70. Bloodwarp95 says:

    I want BOXING GLOVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!