SOD.146 – Now with more Fate

A bit different from the last Dr. Fate SOD I did. I just love that helmet so much.

14 Responses to SOD.146 – Now with more Fate

  1. Worf says:

    So do we Jeff…. I wish they’d just quit with the need for a human and just let the helmet go adventuring by itself 😉

  2. Jeff Hebert says:

    Yes, Worf! In fact, I think we should do a whole series of comics about super-hero clothing items. Thrill as Superman’s cape keeps people warm! Gasp as Wonder Woman’s bracelets block bullets fired by Punisher’s gun! Squeak as Robin’s scaled Underoos squeeze your … well.

  3. Worf says:

    Now your exercising “reductio ad absurdum” at me. None of the OTHER items you described have complete spirits imbued onto them, nor are they the supplier of the character’s power.


  4. Jeff Hebert says:

    I was kidding around Worf, that would actually be pretty cool. I mostly just wanted to work in a joke about Robin’s ultra-tight undies squeezing his junk. What can I say, it’s a slow news day.

  5. Me, Myself & I says:

    That is a pretty arn ccol helmet; even without the imbued spirit.

    Regarding items adventuring on their own, I’d like to see Thor’s Mjöllnir roam about. At least it can fly on its own. 🙂

  6. Frankie says:

    That’s right kiddies, Fate Krispies now come with 15% more Fate than ever before. And Fate Krispies have that wonderful, glowing helmet that mom’s will love.

  7. Matt says:

    @Worf and Jeff(1-4): Nabu can seem to do it easily ( ) so I say that we force DC to do it.

  8. Tim K. says:

    I love Dr. Fate’s classic look.
    I’d rather keep him as a person because that gives us more conflict in a comic.

    Very nice portrait by the way.

  9. deadeas says:

    They did the whole “Nabu without a host” thing in Kingdom Come, didn’t they?

  10. spidercow2010 says:

    Abin Sur’s ring finds Mjölnir…

  11. Bael says:

    I think that Thor’s helmet actually went on it’s own adventure during DeFalco’s run, but that may just have been a bad dream.

  12. Niall Mor says:

    I was cooped up in the hospital unexpectedly for a couple of days last week. Bored out of my skull, I found myself watching what I think must have been the season finale of “Smallville.” It had Dr. Fate and a bunch of other characters in it in the process of organizing the Justice League. (They are totally screwing with what I know about established DC continuity, but no matter). Jeff you’ve frequently remarked on how silly the idea of costumed superheroes is if you think about it too much, and that thought kept running through my head while I was watching this. Watching real people run around in spandex and masks and goofy helmets just seemed so ridiculous when watching it in live action–but you totally buy it if you watch something like the “Justice League Unlimited” cartoons or read it in the comics. I dunno why. Just an observation.

  13. Jeff Hebert says:

    You’re so right Niall, John and I have talked about that a lot. With a cartoon, everything on screen “fits”, it’s all designed to accommodate costumed supers. But in real life, you can’t do that — your brain knows that these are people and seeing them all gussied up in the regular world is jarring.

    With one character, like in Dark Knight, you can tailor the world to match and it can work, especially if they’re the only super on screen most of the time. But when you get a group of them together, you can’t really do that effectively. You’ve got a Batman, at home in gritty and dark Gotham, standing next to Superman, who only fits in a bright and hopeful Metropolis. The two design worlds clash and the characters’ inherent ridiculousness can’t be ignored any more.

    That’s what worries me most about the idea of an “Avengers” movie. You could get away with a group of heroes in X-Men because they were all originally built as part of the same concept — they all fit together and make sense because they were created that way originally. But not so with the Avengers, or the Justice League. They’re a group of characters, each of which has their own style and mythos and appropriate world, and there’s just not an easy way to mesh those wildly disparate elements convincingly outside of the total control of a cartoon.

  14. Niall Mor says:

    With a cartoon, everything on screen “fits”, it’s all designed to accommodate costumed supers.

    I think you’re right Jeff. The other key thing, closely related to that, is that the world of a comic book or cartoon is not reality but a representation of reality, several steps away from the real thing. Subconsciously, your brain “knows” this story is not taking place in the real world and so your imagination slips into a world of myth, metaphor, symbol, and possibility, where anything can and does happen, and it’s perfectly acceptable to have people flying around in ridiculous brightly colored costumes causing or fighting some extraordinary evil. Your brain has to get some kind of “signal,” if you will, that it’s OK to pretend and imagine, or the realistic and fantastic elements of a superhero story will clash, and you won’t buy the illusion.