Dark Knight Risen

I got to see a special early screening of "The Dark Knight Rises" today. And let me tell you, watching a Chris Nolan Batman movie while having access to free booze is a pretty heady experience.

The short version is, it's an excellent conclusion to the trilogy (assuming it's in fact an ending), full of the gritty, character-driven fisticuffs and high-tech Bondian toys we've come to expect from the franchise. I'd give it a solid B+ or A-, not as triumphant an artistic achievement as the Heath Ledger edition but still excellent.

I don't want to spoil it with any details, so I'll just leave it at that. It's a good, solid, entertaining Hollywood action movie starring Batman. You should go see it! (As if you weren't going to anyway, ha!)

24 Responses to Dark Knight Risen

  1. Sebastian978 says:

    I hear that there will be a Justice League movie with this batman, not sure how true it is but if so then it wont be the ending for Christian Bale/Batman

  2. McKnight57 says:

    I’m about to go see the midnight premier so I’ll discuss it with you later, Mr. Hebert. Also, I had about the same rating if not ever so slightly higher for Amazing Spider-Man.

  3. Worf says:

    Sebastian978:
    I hear that there will be a Justice League movie with this batman, not sure how true it is but if so then it wont be the ending for Christian Bale/Batman

    Oh thank you for the laugh. As much as I love DC, a Justice League movie is so far off it’s not even funny. You know, for a company owned by a movie studio for well over a decade, DC (and it’s parent Warner Bros.) doesn’t seem to know how to use the amazing properties they have. They’ve done some pretty good cartoons, but as far as movies are concerned it’s like they completely ignore the characters and stories. If you ever have any doubts that they don’t know their own stuff just download the aborted Wonder Woman pilot and see. It’s a comedy of errors, from making her the head of the Themyscira corporation (yes, not an Amazon, a CEO), to having a secret identity as Diana, the meek secretary. We also have this very stupid idea of not developing stuff in-house. As an example we have next year’s Superman movie. A one-off. Yes. you heard me correctly, it’s not meant to have a sequel, it’s not part of the main continuity (like Superman Returns, as bad as it was, tried to be) it’s a completely independent movie without a planned sequence. ‘Cause we all know that works so well for superhero movies, right?

    Sorry for the rant, it’s just that I love these characters enough to be really put off when I just know that if they went the “Marvel route”, we could be watching the most amazing movies…..

  4. X-stacy says:

    I got the last ticket for a sold-out midnight showing (which kind of pissed me off on behalf of the people who arrived right behind me, because probably ten feet in front of us were a group of teenagers that let all their late-arriving friends get into line with them, but what can you do?). Pretty sweet movie, if a little predictable in spots. I’ll have to see it again next week.

    Sebastian978: I hear that there will be a Justice League movie with this batman, not sure how true it is but if so then it wont be the ending for Christian Bale/Batman

    I, on the other hand, have heard that Bale wouldn’t even consider doing a Batman movie without Nolan, and Nolan is definitely done. Besides, I wouldn’t want this iteration of Batman for the Justice League. I mean, these are some solid movies, don’t get me wrong, but they don’t exactly set up a universe full of super-powers, or a Batman that works well with others.

  5. TOOL says:

    In colorado there was a midnight opening of the new batman where a man opened fire with rifles and tear gas on the viewers. There were about 12 to 16 people killed most in the age range on 12 and below including a baby. Please keep the familys of these people in your thoughts and prayers. Such violence in so senseless and awful.

  6. Sebastian978 says:

    Worf: Oh thank you for the laugh.As much as I love DC, a Justice League movie is so far off it’s not even funny.You know, for a company owned by a movie studio for well over a decade, DC (and it’s parent Warner Bros.) doesn’t seem to know how to use the amazing properties they have.They’ve done some pretty good cartoons, but as far as movies are concerned it’s like they completely ignore the characters and stories.If you ever have any doubts that they don’t know their own stuff just download the aborted Wonder Woman pilot and see.It’s a comedy of errors, from making her the head of the Themyscira corporation (yes, not an Amazon, a CEO), to having a secret identity as Diana, the meek secretary.We also have this very stupid idea of not developing stuff in-house.As an example we have next year’s Superman movie.A one-off.Yes. you heard me correctly, it’s not meant to have a sequel, it’s not part of the main continuity (like Superman Returns, as bad as it was,tried to be) it’s a completely independent movie without a planned sequence.‘Cause we all know that works so well for superhero movies, right?

    Sorry for the rant, it’s just that I love these characters enough to be really put off when I just know that if they went the “Marvel route”, we could be watching the most amazing movies…..

    I agree it was far off but after Avengers doing so well they are seriously contemplating a Justice League movie. I also agree with you that they should make more D.C. movies, it would be amazing!

  7. Sebastian978 says:

    TOOL:
    In colorado there was a midnight opening of the new batman where a man opened fire with rifles and tear gas on the viewers.There were about 12 to 16 people killed most in the age range on 12 and below including a baby.Please keep the familys of these people in your thoughts and prayers.Such violence in so senseless and awful.

    Yeah I was just reading up on this. 14 dead about 50 injured. It’s horrifying, makes you wonder what goes through these people’s minds when they do something like this.

  8. Jeff Hebert says:

    I just read an article last night that said they are wanting to do a Justice League movie that introduces all of the characters, rather than building up to it with a series of one-offs like Marvel did.

  9. Sebastian978 says:

    X-stacy:
    I got the last ticket for a sold-out midnight showing (which kind of pissed me off on behalf of the people who arrived right behind me, because probably ten feet in front of us were a group of teenagers that let all their late-arriving friends get into line with them, but what can you do?).Pretty sweet movie, if a little predictable in spots.I’ll have to see it again next week.

    I, on the other hand, have heard that Bale wouldn’t even consider doing a Batman movie without Nolan, and Nolan is definitely done.Besides, I wouldn’t want this iteration of Batman for the Justice League.I mean, these are some solid movies, don’t get me wrong, but they don’t exactly set up a universe full of super-powers, or a Batman that works well with others.

    Good points, I was just saying something I heard. You know how it goes, people say one thing about a movie and then it totally changes as it gets closer to a release date.

  10. Sebastian978 says:

    Jeff Hebert:
    I just read an article last night that said they are wanting to do a Justice League movie that introduces all of the characters, rather than building up to it with a series of one-offs like Marvel did.

    It’s kinda a shame because Bale was the greatest Batman so far in my opinion.

  11. Sebastian978 says:

    Sebastian978: It’s kinda a shame because Bale was the greatest Batman so far in my opinion.

    I really hope the rumors I heard were true. But it is true as X-stacy pointed out, that these Batman movies don’t show a world of actual super-powers. Ones of the things I love so much about these movies is it’s realistic to a point, so it couldn’t show a world of super-powers etc. Also Batman not working well with others, but then again. Even in Justice League did he ever want to work with others? Or did he just see the potential of working with a team like this.

  12. Kaldath says:

    Sebastian978: It’s kinda a shame because Bale was the greatest Batman so far in my opinion.

    Yeah Bale is an AWESOME batman, but in my Opinion Michael Keaton isn’t far behind him, which surprised me at the time to be honest. Now George Clooney, and Val Kilmer were bother horrible Batmen in my opinion.

  13. Patriot_Missile says:

    TOOL: In colorado there was a midnight opening of the new batman where a man opened fire with rifles and tear gas on the viewers. There were about 12 to 16 people killed most in the age range on 12 and below including a baby. Please keep the familys of these people in your thoughts and prayers. Such violence in so senseless and awful.

    My conodolences to the victims of this villainy. Bad guys are losers. Keep your eyes and ears perked like Batman, people.

  14. Jeff Hebert says:

    Sebastian978: Ones of the things I love so much about these movies is it’s realistic to a point, so it couldn’t show a world of super-powers etc.

    Buddy John and I talk about this a lot. Can you imagine Superman in the Christopher Nolan Batman universe? An invulnerable guy shooting laser beams out of his eyeballs? No way.

    That’s not to say you couldn’t write a movie that would have both characters on-screen in the same world and have it make sense. It’s just completely antithetical to the kind of specific universe Nolan has built.

  15. Joe says:

    Saw the film last night at midnight. I was blown away when “Crazy Quilt” was behind the whole thing and Joseph Gordon-Levitt turned out to be Man-Bat (I’m kidding, of course). Excellent movie, though it did lag in parts, yes.

    Bale as Batman…I get it, sort of. I grew up with Adam West reruns, and then had the Keaton/Kilmer/Clooney series get progressively sillier, with the only real darkness I could see on a regular basis being Kevin Conroy’s Animated Batman. In my head, Batman isn’t supposed to be so high minded. He goes out and kicks the hell out of the bad guys, and it’s as simple as that.I have to admit, though, that I enjoyed this so much it hurts.

    Loved Tom Hardy as Bane, though I hated what they did with his voice.

    Also, Anne Hathaway’s Catwoman…approved. Not enough screen time in my opinion, and I’d like to have had a little more character development time with her, but she’s just the right blend of 60’s camp and 90’s edge. Loved her to death.

  16. Sebastian978 says:

    Jeff Hebert: Buddy John and I talk about this a lot. Can you imagine Superman in the Christopher Nolan Batman universe? An invulnerable guy shooting laser beams out of his eyeballs? No way.

    That’s not to say you couldn’t write a movie that would have both characters on-screen in the same world and have it make sense. It’s just completely antithetical to the kind of specific universe Nolan has built.

    Yeah exactly. It just wouldn’t fit.

  17. Sebastian978 says:

    Kaldath: Yeah Bale is an AWESOME batman, but in my Opinion Michael Keaton isn’t far behind him, which surprised me at the time to be honest. Now George Clooney, and Val Kilmer were bother horrible Batmen in my opinion.

    Yeah I have to agree.

  18. Jeff Hebert says:

    Joe: Loved Tom Hardy as Bane, though I hated what they did with his voice.

    Also, Anne Hathaway’s Catwoman…approved. Not enough screen time in my opinion, and I’d like to have had a little more character development time with her, but she’s just the right blend of 60′s camp and 90′s edge. Loved her to death.

    Agreed whole-heartedly with both of those points.

    Aside from the voice on Bane, I felt like having the actor’s lower face completely covered really detracted from the performance. I had a hard time getting into him and believing he was delivering the lines. I mean, I know a completely covered actor can work (hello Darth Vader!) but for whatever reason in this outing it threw me.

    I’m not usually a huge Anne Hathaway fan but I thought she was terrific in this. I too wish she’d have gotten a bit more screen time, but at a hefty three hours already I can see why they had to pick and choose what made it on screen.

    *** SPOILER ALERT! SPOILER ALERT! ***

    For those of you who have already seen it, in the final scene, would you rather have had them cut to black after the smile or do you like that they showed us who/what he was looking at?

  19. Frevoli says:

    Jeff Hebert: Buddy John and I talk about this a lot. Can you imagine Superman in the Christopher Nolan Batman universe? An invulnerable guy shooting laser beams out of his eyeballs? No way.

    yeah, having Superman exist in the Nolan-verse would’ve made the film less suspenceful – “okay so I wrapped Bane in a street light, the triggerman is in the building there but no worry as I threw the bomb into the sun… all in about 3 seconds”

    Joe:
    Loved Tom Hardy as Bane, though I hated what they did with his voice.

    Bane’s voice I am still not a fan of – never thought I’d see Batman exchaning dialogue with a Scottish Robot

    Jeff Hebert:
    I just read an article last night that said they are wanting to do a Justice League movie that introduces all of the characters, rather than building up to it with a series of one-offs like Marvel did.

    I think it’s funny how DC said “marvel’s doing their thing, we’re gonna just do ours”… then once they saw Avenger’s takings, sceduled Justice League for 2015

  20. Joe says:

    Jeff Hebert:
    *** SPOILER ALERT! SPOILER ALERT! ***

    For those of you who have already seen it, in the final scene, would you rather have had them cut to black after the smile or do you like that they showed us who/what he was looking at?

    Definitely would have rather a cut to black, but I was okay with seeing the subject of his gaze. Totally not a deal breaker for me.

  21. Frevoli says:

    Maybe after inception, Nolan decided against further debate causing cliffhangers

    btw – anyone else spot the green lantern ring in the stadium scene?

  22. Sebastian978 says:

    Frevoli:
    Maybe after inception, Nolan decided against further debate causing cliffhangers

    btw – anyone else spot the green lantern ring in the stadium scene?

    So maybe it’s not far fetched for Justice League movie if the’re showing the ring. Reminds me of when they showed stuff leading up to Avengers movie.

  23. Kytana says:

    Because the film come out 27.6. i want have any spoiler. But when i saw cat woman i become a shock. Thats no cat woman, thats a little princess with big wide eyes. A sweet person with long hair and extreme unsexy costume(look at this ugly ears) . Why cant it not look like this:
    http://games.supportnet.de/articleimage/8976/miez.jpg
    I hope the rest of the film is a little bit better then this. I like jokers costume very well, but this is horrible.

  24. Arioch says:

    Well, actually, the movie catwoman’s costume has some similarities to this 🙂

    Aside from the stupid high heels (since when are these practical), she was great, especially at the start (she devolved to background as the movie went on)

    Frevoli:
    btw – anyone else spot the green lantern ring in the stadium scene?

    o_O No, I didn’t!! Too bad.

    Also, Isn’t Nolan a producer on the Superman movie?

    The movie… IMO, a little long at times, but great, and moving. Some of the themes it touches upon are… important to me, and I felt like crying near the end.

    There’s one big, big, big mistake Nolan made IMO, and it’s Marion Cotillard. She just doesn’t cut it, especially given who she’s supposed to be.
    She can be okay at times (like in De Rouille et d’Os), but she usually isn’t, and I fail to understand how she can be so successful, especially in big american movies.