With help from Facebook Nation, we're returning to the lethal simplicity of the head-to-head matchup, this time in the realm of the dark wizards:
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Both have magical-type powers (one from literal magic, the other from the Force). Both have mechanical aids (wands vs. light sabers). Both have vast resources of minions on whom they can call for support. And both are complete bastards.
So who would win?
(Image via "EpicShowdowns.blogspot.com", which had this exact conflict featured last year!)
Vader wins, of course, because it turns out he’s the tragic hero of the saga all along. And heroes win; it’s what they do.
has Vader already destroyed the horcruxes?
Are we talking whiny bitch Return Of the Jedi Vader, or super badass New Hope/Empire Strikes Back Vader?
Volde has the pure evil edge. But I gotta go with Vader, just cause.
Up close, Vader.
From a distance, “He who must not be named.”
I’ve gone with Vader – a quick force choke, and no spells can be said
Vader. Cause I’m old school like that
Darth!! Only Darth!! Daaaartf, I am you faaan!!..
Lord Vader wins. All he needs to do is get the choke hold on Voldemort, and he cannot speak to cast his spells.
Vader wins! (What else is there to say?)
Wand? Pssh. I’ll saber throw and you don’t have arms to hold a wand with. Don’t you look funny now.
Since everyone else says “choke.”
Vader. And for two important reasons:
1. Voldemort is whispered as “He Who Shall Not Be Named”. Ok, it’s creepy and mysterious, I’ll give “Noseless” that. But Vader? When you see Vader approaching you scream out, “Oh S^*%!”. That, my friends, is bad-assery.
2. Vader is loosely based on another disfigured, armor-clad bad-ass in a mask. I won’t mention names, * hacking cough* Our Undisputed Master. Lord of All He Surveys…and Latveria. Our Calamity and Destruction. Arch-foe to Richards *hacking cough*. Sorry about that, I’m getting over a bout of the flu.
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I like Vader more, but I’m going to give this one to Voldemort simply because he actually has some henchman with skill. Vader has Storm Troopers, which are so inaccurate that the only way they can kill someone is off screen.
Dark Helmet would own them both 🙂
Voldemor, like all HP wizards, is ridiculously powerless without his wand. And vader can easily take it away, while protecting himself from voldy’s attacks.
As per ressources, well, voldemor’s got minions. Vader’s got the death star… Pwned!
Voldemort has killed Robert Pattison(or ordered to kill, I can’t remember how it was exactly)… Gotta give him some credit for that… 😀
Vader wins because HE DID NOT SPARE ANYONE FOR WHATEVER REASON!!!!! and need I say it with ol’ voldemort?
Classic case of who strikes first.
Whoever gets the first attack wins.
Vader. He’d just use the Force to take old Voldemort’s want out of his hand.
Voldermort can’t even take out ONE snotty nosed little eleven year old, Vader took out a whole room of “younglings” its Vader for the Win.
Cadet without a lightsaber is still capable of choking the life out of incompetent minions and lifting full grown men with one arm. Voldemort without a wand is a creepy looking guy who looks kind of like a snake.
Ugh, I hate the auto-correct on my phone. Should read “Vader without a lightsaber…”
I say Vader is cool and a classic but Voldemort has like so many powers and that immortality thing going for him. They both do have kinda cool henchmen, but whats the point of storm trooper armor if you get taken out with one blast to anywhere on your body or hit with a stick by a small bear creature. Reluctantly I would say Voldemort wins but not by land slide. Then my guy Darth Vicious would step out of the shadows and finish them off, and yes frivoli he would find the horcruxes while Vader and him were fighting.
http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee363/cameron_stanley_84/DarthVicious.png
Okay, even if Voldemort was able to fire a spell, Anakin (because I refuse to believe he was truly lost) would be able to block it with his Lightsaber. I mean, if that thing can stop Force Lightning, I think it can stop a stick with a feather core.
Also, if Voldemort started hiding behind Horcruxes, then Anakin would have no problem finding them and stabbing them with his Lightsaber. To me, a lightsaber is like Baselisk venom, once you are hit with a Lightsaber, the only hope is that you just got your hand chopped off and you will live, but if it is your head, there is no cure.
P.S.: Did anyone else notice that four people (Anakin, Luke, Dooku, and Windu) have had limbs chopped off? If you include Dooku’s head, that makes a solid TEN limbs lost via lightsaber.
hey I counted in the entire saga it’s twelve, wampa, and barfly in a new hope. And vader would win, choke voldemort so he cant cast spells, throw his wand, then he’s any old bald guy in robe(which are a handicap)
Ooooooh, I forgot abour thos ajw(24)! at least I am not the only one who counted them 🙂
oh, and extremely talented wizards can cast spells without speaking, so a Force choke might not be the best choice…
First, since this scenario has the two fight one-on-one, Vader will clearly win because of his “Sith Choke” ability. (Vader 1, Voldy 0)
Second, according to the story, Vader is actually a puppet of Lord Palapatine, and thus is subject to his master’s orders. Voldemort, in his story, is a leader; he has no master whatsoever, and thus has the privilege to act on his accord. If Palapatine tells Vader to back off at least once during the battle, Vader is dead. (Vader 1, Voldy 1)
Third, Voldy’s basic weapon is a wand, and the wand can be taken away to make the dark wizard powerless. Vader, being Sith (dark Jedi), he probably doesn’t need a lightsaber to beat anyone (see “Sith Choke” comment). The only hope Voldy would have then is quick reaction time. (Vader 2, Voldy 1)
Finally, we come to the fight between the non-human minions Vader has droids and Voldy has dementors. Droids are impervious to the Imperious/Crucius/Kadevra curses as well as having no readable emotions (or souls for that matter), so if Voldy’s forces take down the troopers, they have to deal with droids. As for dementors, the only way of getting rid of those is Patronus Charm, which no-one in the Star Wars universe knows, so they provide a challenge to beat with plasma beams.
Now wait a sec! I forgot something: Droids are not immune to other spells. When the DE’s figure this out, all they have to do is do a simple charm to incapacitate the droids. (Vader 2, Voldy 2)
With these four points in play, both are evenly matched. Therefore I based my decision on this fact: Vader redeemed himself in the end, but Voldemort had never redeemed himself. Therefore, Voldemort gets my vote.
Vader has a light saber, Voldemort has a wand.
Vader commands thousands of stormtroopers and several fleets, Voldemort has a dozen dark wizards.
Vader killed all the Jedi on Coruscant, blew up a Alderaan, and helped imposed a fascist government upon the galaxy.
Voldemort killed like 10 people and imposed his will on a school, and failed to take over the Ministry of Magic.
Who’s the more Bad Ass?
@Bud: That was an epic beatdown!
In a battle of who is the “baddest” Darth Vader or Lord Voldemort, the two men in this contest are; a man that was killed by himself and a man that was killed by a new born.
From the looks of it the clear winner is the Skipper from Gilligan’s Island. He may have been defeated by Bob Denver but aleast he didn’t get himself killed.
My first thought was Voldemort, because he has the edge in raw destructive power. They talked a lot about what could be done with the Force in the movies, but everything the most powerful Force wielders did was small scale. Lifting an X-Wing was the most impressive display of raw power in the movies, and that wasn’t even Vader, that was an older and more powerful Force Wielder. Whereas a lesser follower of Voldemort destroyed London Bridge with a spell. The scale of raw power is very different.
But then I thought about the lightsabre battles between Vader and Luke in the second and third movies. Force effects like levitation and crushing windpipes were a little slow, but Jedi and Sith Lords can move in combat! For all that Voldemort’s death spells are faster than Vader’s equivalent strike-a-pose-and-point powers, in combat the Sith Lord turns into a whirling dervish of death. And being able to use the Force to track the connections to the horcruxes so he could finish the job is not unreasonable. Even without destroying the horcruxes, he could reduce Voldy to a wraith again in a heartbeat, so in the end I voted Darth Vader.
jus a small comment, HP wizzards do not need to speak to cast a charm or curse they can think it too, but it takes some skill and concentration to do so.
Since this poll does not include the *&^%$#@ Batman, I cannot consider the results as definitive.
ditto the creator. I had been thinking the same myself. Vader would still win.
Vader wins, because Waldemort is too chatty. While he is making a moking comment on Vaders helmet, he pulls away Waldemort’s wand, then force holds him in the air by the throat while walks to him and finally slashes him in twain with lightsaber. End of fight.
I think that if magic existed in the Star Wars Universe, a force user would be able to control it. If that’s correct, it goes to Vader.
I would like to add that both characters got their butts kicked by whiny little brats.
Vader all the way. (preferably from Empire or New Hope cuz in Jedi he was a punk…another word popped in my mind but we’ll go with punk) And in the prequel (the only one with Vader in it) He was a big sack of Emo Crap
But anyone who chops his son’s arm off THEN asks him to join you…whatever happened to catching more flies with honey…is truly a force to be reckoned with
On side note….Batman wins. Batman wins everything….HES FREAKING BATMAN!
Vader could just take the fight to space.
Space > Wizards
A little Death Star PEW PEW to the planet – there goes Voldemorts horcruxes and pet snake.
I said Darth cuz look at who kills him. Ancient and Powerful Sith Lord! Now Volde’s the man but he gets beaten by school children constantly. and since there are schoolkids in both universes I’m pretty sure Volde will be beaten anywhere he goes. no sith lords in Hp world though…plus i wanna see Darth chasing “Yoda” *koff*Dobby*koff* around hogwarts
In any event, they both would’ve gotten away with it “if it wasn’t for those meddling kids!”
Zaheelee (@23) and ajw (@24), you’re not the only ones to notice it–my brother tells me that in the old Star Wars tabletop RPG, there was a rule in place that allowed a jedi to sacrifice a limb in order to avoid being killed!
Oh come on, how can anyone even vote for Voldemort on this one? First of all Vader would sense Voldemort’s attacks before he could even launch them. Second he could simply defelct the attacks without even using his lightsaber. Remember Han trying to blast him in ESB? You really think Voldy’s gonna have more luck? And with his lightsaber he could send the spells back at him. Then of course there’s Vader just Force-choking Voldy. Even with the whole non-verbal spell thing no Harry Potter witch or wizard’s gonna be able to think clearly when their being choked to death. No contest, Vader in five seconds.
Jeff, in your comparison, you forgot to add “both are poorly-disguised Nazis”
I’m going with Voldemort here, just because if Vader strikes him, he’ll just come back again (and become stronger than Vader would ever imagine in the process, of course) unless Vader destroy all parts of his soul, and Vader is way to stupid and impulsive to think of that.