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What Were They Thinking: An Immaculate Concept(ion)

When a comic series reaches a milestone with doubles zeros at the end, it's time for a celebration. They'll go big on a storyline, push the boat out. For example, when The Amazing Spider-Man hit its 200th issue, Marvel had him confront the man who killed his Uncle Ben, a big storyline right, one that makes thematic sense for a big occasion. Likewise, when The Uncanny X-Men hit the same milestone, Magneto was put on trial for terrorism. The teams greatest enemy could have finally been dealt justice, huge. And what did the Avengers do to celebrate their 200th issue? It must have been something incredible right? Well, let me give you a hint. You are currently reading What Were They Thinking, the series where we take a look at the stupidest, most ill-advised things in the history of the comic book industry. How do you think it turned out?

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What (Are) They Thinking: No More Clone Conspiracies

So, as I'm sure you all know by now, here on What Were They Thinking, we take a look at the stupidest, most ill-advised things from comic book history and we make fun of their idiocy. Some of the things we cover aren't exactly the most comfortable of subjects but they get covered because of the ridiculousness of it all. I usually cover the stuff that when I find out about it makes me laugh and say "I can't believe they actually did that!" And I do that because I love comics, I love the characters and I love the stories.

However, this week we are covering something that I am legitimately angry about. And of course it would be something Marvel have done because gosh darn it aren't they the absolute best at being the worst sometimes. So, buckle up ladies and gentlemen, JR is about to go off on a rant about the current Spider-Man crossover, Dead No More: The Clone Conspiracy.

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What Were They Thinking: “Mental Ageing”

So, here on What Were They thinking, the series where we look at the stupidest most ill-advised things to ever appear in the comic book medium, we've covered a lot of dodgy and potentially offensive subjects. Teen pregnancy, incest, child abuse, but we haven't had paedophilia yet. Well don't worry everyone, Green Lantern has you covered (and I am going to hell for this one).

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What Were They Thinking?: Earth(31) to Frank Miller

So, here on What Were They Thinking, the series where we take a look at the stupidest, most ill advised things the comic book industry has ever done, we talk a lot about "them", "them" being a blanket term for the faceless people upstairs in the publishing houses of Marvel and DC, the writers and artists who create the terrible stuff we cover and basically everyone who works there. We don't ever focus on individuals, I mean I haven't even slagged off Rob Liefeld on this series, even when I did it originally. However, today that is going to change, because we're talking about this bloke.

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What Were They Thinking: The Ultimate Brother-Sister Relationship

So, after a very positive response to last weeks post, we're back with another edition of What Were They Thinking, where we take a look at some of the stupidest, most ill advised things to happen in the realm of comic books. And this week, well, we're talking about these two...

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What Were They Thinking: Trouble

Well, here's something I haven't done in a long time, but I just found out about this one and boy is it a doozy. Anyway, for those that don't know, What Were They Thinking is a series where we take a look at the stupidest, most ill-advised moves in comic book history. And this week, Marvel's in Trouble.

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What Were They Thinking: The “Marvel’ous ’90’s

Now, as we are all aware, the '90's were an unusual time for comics. It was the ultimate style over substance era. Crossovers and events were common place, artists became superstars (some undeservedly) and limited edition covers sold in their millions to fans hoping they would turn out to be a big money investment (Todd McFarlane's monthly Spider-Man series (Spider-Man) sold over 2.5 million copies in 1990, thanks to it's three variant covers). Now, whilst no company was immune to this (Image was probably one of the worst and best at this thanks to it's creator controlled ethos and the fact it was co-founded by Rob Liefeld), but whilst DC seemed content with mostly going for the crossovers (see What Were They Thinking: The Death Of Superman), Marvel went all out. Variant covers, rehashes of old successful storylines (Days of Future Present for example), splash pages, crossovers, massive guns and impossible anatomy were the order of the day, especially in the first 5 years of the decade. Between 1990 and 1995 Marvel gave us Cable and the X-Force, X-Tinction Agenda, Days of Future Present, Deadpool, The Weapon X story, The New Fantastic Four, The Infinity Guantlet, The Marvel Swimsuit Special (no joke), Punisher: War Zone, Operation: Galactic Storm, Carnage, Cable's solo series, Marvel 2099, X-Cutioners Song, Maximum Carnage, Daredevil: Fall From Grace, The Death of Mr. Fantastic, X-Men Fatal Attraction, a War Machine solo series, Force Works, Marvels and Ruins, Spider-Man's Clone Saga and X-Men: Age Of Apocalypse. And then of course in '96 we had Marvel vs. DC, need I say more.

Of all of Marvel's titles, the X-Men seemed to get it the worst. Ok, Spidey got pretty screwy (especially with the Clone Saga, but we'll come to that another time), but X-Men was turned into the biggest cash cow ever. Just look at the list above, every third thing mentioned involves the X-Men. They came to typify everything that was wrong with the X-Treme '90's, especially the New Mutants (nee X-Force), which was drawn by Rob Liefeld. Liefeld was basically given control of the series by '91 and he did his usual. You can see Jeff's old I Hate Rob Liefeld blog posts for a continuation on this, but let me just add, his writing is as bad as his art.

However, I don't blame the artists for the lack of substance at Marvel during the '90's, some of them I'm totally fine with. I think the big problem happened in 1989. In 1989 New World Entertainment sold Marvel to some guy called Ronald Perelman, some of you might have heard of him, he's a billionaire businessman. His reason for buying Marvel was that he wanted to make it as bug and profitable as Disney (irony alarm), not to create great comics, but to chase the big bucks. Hmmmm, call me old fashioned or even anti-big business if you want, but I prefer it when it's enthusiasts trying to make their work as good as they can for other enthusiasts, not to make some corperate big-wig massive money. That's why I don't have as big a problem with Image Comics as I do with Marvel in this era, Image was all about creator ownership. However, this approach worked for a while, Marvels sales had never been higher, and never have since, because by '96 Perelman's business plan had driven Marvel to bankruptcy. His plan to buy up other smaller companies in an attempt to expand the Marvel Entertainment group into a Disney style entertainment conglomeration built up a debt that they could not pay off and it eventually led to Marvel being bought out by one of its own subsidiaries, ToyBiz, in 1998. Fortunately this seemed to get Marvel back on track in some areas, such as the launch of the Marvel Knights line (check out the '98 Inhumans series) and they are now as strong as ever.

Sorry for the rant. Next week we'll be back to Sci-Fi corner. I don't have a subject just yet, but I should have something ready by next Monday.

What Were They Thinking: “Slightly Above Average” Woman

As we all know, hindsight is a wonderful thing. And looking back through some questionable decisions made by the big two (I don't really know enough about Dark Horse or Image to comment on them), it seems that one of the biggest problems they have is chasing trends. So, for the next few WWTT's we'll be having a look at the most questionable of these trend chasers (be warned there will be '90's), starting today with the earliest.

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What Were They Thinking: More Marvel-ous Transformations

As promised two weeks ago, when we covered DC's weirdest and most ill thought out transformations, this week we're going to have a look at the exact same thing in the Marvel universe. As with last week, these are all completely cannon.

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What Were They Thinking: DC’s Transformation Obsession

It strikes me that, during my numerous times delving into comic book history and lore, DC comics seems to have an odd love for unusual transformations. Now we all know about characters like Beast Boy/ Changeling, but this also includes guys like Clayface and Swamp Thing. However the best ones are the properly weird times, usually between the late 50's to early 70's, when DC went transformation crazy. I promise, all of these are really true.

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