The Cloverfield Paradox Spoiler Review

Hey everyone we are back again with another movie review. I was originally going to talk about Superbowl trailers but one of those trailers was for The Cloverfield Paradox, called The God Particle when it was on my list of anticipated movies for 2017. And not only that, we also got a release date, it was coming out on Netflix that night after the game. And I finally got a chance to see it. So let’s see what all that waiting is for. I have tried to write this as a non-spoiler review. I really have. That’s part of the reason this is later than anticipated. But unfortunately, this is one of those movies you can’t talk about without talking about the movie. So, out of the ordinary and spoilers ahead.

 

I’m not really sure where to start with this one. I’ve been sitting on writing this because I felt like I needed some time to parse through my thoughts on this. So here we are, and hopefully I can make some sense of this. Since I will be talking about specific things that happen, hopefully we can come around to some kind of conclusion once we get to the end.

We’ll get this out of the way; The Cloverfield Paradox isn’t a bad movie, if that’s where it seemed like I was going. I’m just not sure it was a good movie. Even that seems a little harsh. There was a lot I really liked about this movie, I just had some problems with it, too. Even writing this I’m still not sure how that will affect my final verdict. But let’s get into some details.

Let’s accentuate the positive here, to begin with. This is a really good cast. Not only is it a really good cast but the performances are all really solid. None of the problems I had with this movie had to do with the actors. Having the film on a space station, it leads to a similar dynamic as on the International Space Station in which the people there come from a variety of different backgrounds and different countries. That leads to some really fun and interesting interactions between the cast, although as I’ll talk about later, it’s something I also wish they’d really gone deeper into because there’s some amazing potential that doesn’t really get utilized. But otherwise, that aspect was one of the high points, even if we made a few Zemo jokes and at one point went ‘That’s where that guy’s from! He was the one that Jane went on a date with in Thor: The Dark World!’.

The face you make when you find out your dating competition is Thor

The second thing I really liked was the sci-fi aspect of it. For the most part. The whole idea with the Shepard accelerator (I only made one Mass Effect joke when they said that, I promise) was really interesting, and the fact that it was something that they had to work on and wasn’t successful right away. Sometimes that kind of thing is too easy and fires on the first go, and that would have robbed us of some of those character interactions that I liked. I liked the whole multiverse/temporal paradox angle a lot, too. The extra level of uncertainty in what to believe, what is true for our universe and what is from the other one, and that kind of thing. I thought the introduction of Jensen, a character who was part of the mission in the ‘alternate universe’ was actually pretty creepy. Like when she’s stuck in the wall and shrieking and then recognizes Hamilton and you’re like WTF is going on here? That was cool. I’m such a sucker for sci-fi, and this one had a lot of ‘my things’: both hard and speculative sci-fi, working off of actual science as a starting point, multiverses, ethical questions/how people deal with stuff. This should’ve been a slam-dunk, guys.

Other things I liked: The effects in this film were overall well done. There wasn’t any point where I went ‘oooh, that looks bad’ like I have in other movies. Especially in sci-fi where you need the technology/space stuff/etc. to look convincing or else things get cheesy pretty quick. The score was good but a few days later here nothing particularly memorable stands out, so do with that what you will. There is a little bit of humor in and amongst everything that’s happening and that generally lands. I didn’t really care for the whole bit with Mundy’s arm at the time, but the arm as a character has kind of grown on me and I’m pretty okay with it now. I also liked how the Shepard was supposed to fix everything, ended up causing a huge mess in the process, and then in the end saved everybody and now everything will be hunky dory. That’s a meta thing though, and not to do with the movie.

which in NO WAY represents how Allie Shepard defeated the Reapers, I swear.

 

Okay, let’s talk about the part that sucks: the flaws. I have two main issues with this movie that are sadly kind of big ones in the grand scheme of things.

  1. The ‘Cloverfield’ part of The Cloverfield Paradox. This movie mercilessly beats you over the head with trying to tie this into the Cloverfield franchise, especially the first movie. But you can tell that this wasn’t originally part of the film and was shoehorned in later. And it was shoehorned in hard. The best parts of this movie are when they aren’t trying to connect this all together. What made the original film and 10 Cloverfield Lane so great? They were great movies, but also they weren’t trying to force a connection. In 10 Cloverfield Lane you don’t get a connection to the other film until right at the very end and so it didn’t muddle up the excellent and tense story. I personally disliked it every time they cut away from the station to go back to what was happening on Earth. That severely destroyed the tension of the peril of the crew. Maybe do it the once the first time when the station goes missing initially, but it was done way too many times. And the story with Hamilton’s husband and the little girl goes absolutely nowhere. Cutting that out completely would’ve tightened up the story a lot. What purpose did it serve other than to jam those Cloverfield references in our faces? Even the damn paradox that sends them into this mess is called The Cloverfield Paradox and even the station is called The Cloverfield. We get it guys, they’re related! You can dial it back a bit. You see and hear that word so many times through the runtime that it just sort of starts to lose its meaning.

Don't you, forget about me Don't, don't, don't, don't Don't you, forget about me

As me and the other half were hashing this out, this was my solution: when the station disappears we go to Earth the first time when Michael Hamilton finds out. We stay in space for the rest of the movie until the very end. Have Michael and Joe’s final phone conversation in voiceover as the pod comes back down to earth, ending as it cuts through the cloud. Keep the final shot of Clovie rearing up immediately after. End. Boom. I would also cut out most of the references and uses of the word Cloverfield except for maybe the conspiracy theorist on tv at the beginning (but I would have cut that off sooner. It went on too long and got too on the nose) and seeing it on the outside of the station as they depart for the final time. That’s it.

  1. Not setting out rules, and thus not following them, leading to zero logic. This is the other big issue for me that I couldn’t ignore. The best way for me to explain it is like this: I enjoy to both read and write, with my preferred genres being fantasy and science fiction (fitting for this discussion). Now whether it be magic, technology, or something else, your universe needs to have rules as how it works. And then you have to adhere to those rules. Without that, logic and suspension of disbelief go out the window. I found that probably by about the midpoint of the movie, where things start going wrong and getting weird, that they must have been making this up on the fly with no logical thought put into things. Stuff just happens with no rhyme or reason. And I know, they’ve created a massive disturbance in space and time and so maybe the effects are unpredictable, but there needs to be something for the audience to buy into what’s going on. It kind of seems like they backed themselves into a corner by killing Volkov off relatively quickly and without the really interesting interpersonal drama he was cultivating, especially with Schmidt, that they needed something to put in there to keep the story going so they didn’t have to tip off the reveal with Jensen too early. I liked the temporal/physical displacements of things a lot, but they didn’t do a whole lot with it. Why are things displaced? Even some speculation form the characters? A line about location of things in their universe vs. the alternate one? Nothing? Then when they start the mid-movie cast reduction, it just feels like they go to a point that could be logical and then just go that step further just because, or for extra shock value. I say this especially in regards to Tam and Mundy. Why did that chamber fill with water? Are we supposed to extrapolate that it was because the other Cloverfield Station crashed into the sea or because she was doing work regarding water condensation? Why is there no water anywhere else then? Why did it wait until that point to flood? Was the flash freeze necessary or just something for shock value? As far as Mundy goes, if the magnetic sealant was being pulled to the suddenly-magnetized (again, with no explanation) door, why in the next shot is against the opposite wall trying to engulf him like a Venom symbiote?

not exaggerating.

When it was all set up to go right through him? The wall's obviously still magnetized or it wouldn’t have pulled that CO canister. It would’ve made more sense if the sealant and/or Mundy hitting the wall had somehow caused the explosion. And why did the other wall suck in and pull off his arm earlier on? There is even less logical reasoning for that other than to have the humorous disembodied arm bits later on. Did alternate Mundy have one only arm and this was a ‘course correction’? It’s never touched on, nor does the ability of the arm to move independently and intelligently, even after the rest of Mundy dies. I understand that it’s the whole idea of ‘we’ve ripped a hole in space and time and now weird stuff is happening and we have no idea what the hell is going on’, but there’s no logic behind it the way there was for the displacements. And no one ever says anything about it. If this was happening to you, wouldn’t you at least ask maybe once, if only to yourself, what is going on? I needed something here, guys. I don’t care if it’s a Star Trek-esque technobabble explanation, but you can’t just have stuff happen and gives us nothing on why. And I don’t want to hear that ‘mystery box’ garbage, that’s no excuse to be sloppy in world-building.

Well, that’s off my chest now. So, final thoughts? This was an okay movie. If I hadn’t been anticipating this movie for this long would I have thought differently of it? Maybe, but given that my two big issues with it were story-driven, probably not. The original premise of the film, back when it was called The God Particle, was just so interesting that I was really looking forward to a good, hard sci-fi film and I didn’t quite get what I wanted. Would I recommend it? Well, the performances are good and you can watch it on Netflix literally anytime you want, so if you’re curious, give it a go. It’s only an hour and forty minutes, so even if you don’t like it, it’s not particularly long. I wish I could’ve given this the glowing review I’d been hoping for. I guess I’ll just have to wait and see how Annihilation is when it opens next week. Although before that, and in fact tomorrow, we’ll be heading down to see Black Panther, so expect a review for that very soon.

3 Responses to The Cloverfield Paradox Spoiler Review

  1. The Atomic Punk

    The movie was rather “eh”. It had a couple of moments where it could have been… well, better. The character interaction is a highlight even though the characters themselves are underdeveloped.

    Netflix continues to hype the movie so hard. I can’t make it 12 minutes into the original “Cloverfield.” Not a fan of the “first-person shooter” when it comes to movies. I haven’t seen “10 Cloverfield Lane.”

    If they had skipped the Cloverfield kaiju angle, it would have been passable. And they did tack on Cloverfield as a way to spur an audience. It’s like “Highlander 3.” An interesting enough story that for whatever reason was tagged and written into a franchise for no reason other than to sell tickets only to torque the fans.

  2. I also enjoyed this and when I watched it, the lack of logic didn’t bother me too much. I viewed it as a somewhat generic, though fun sci fi thriller and I got that. I kind of viewed the lack of logic as a side effect of the paradox. Things just get weird. It also got a lot of critical hate when it came out, and I just don’t see it. I was entertained all the way through and it left one or two images/concepts in my memory, namely the arm and the telefragged woman.
    My main problem with the Cloverfield Paradox is that its marketing and subsequent release, which are super interesting and cool, took away hype from Netflix’s other sci fi release that weekend, Altered Carbon, which I thoroughly enjoyed.

  3. The Atomic Punk:
    The movie was rather “eh”. It had a couple of moments where it could have been… well, better. The character interaction is a highlight even though the characters themselves are underdeveloped.

    Netflix continues to hype the movie so hard. I can’t make it 12 minutes into the original “Cloverfield.” Not a fan of the “first-person shooter” when it comes to movies. I haven’t seen “10 Cloverfield Lane.”

    If they had skipped the Cloverfield kaiju angle, it would have been passable. And they did tack on Cloverfield as a way to spur an audience. It’s like “Highlander 3.” An interesting enough story that for whatever reason was tagged and written into a franchise for no reason other than to sell tickets only to torque the fans.

    I haven’t watched the first Cloverfield movie in a long time, so I don’t know how it holds up. It’s at least easier to watch on a small screen than a big one. I thought 10 Cloverfield Lane was fantastic and much better than Paradox.
    You’re totally right about the Highlander 3 thing. I would have been fine with this as a Cloverfield movie, too, if they weren’t trying to beat me over the head with it every five seconds.

    Vampyrist:
    I also enjoyed this and when I watched it, the lack of logic didn’t bother me too much. I viewed it as a somewhat generic, though fun sci fi thriller and I got that. I kind of viewed the lack of logic as a side effect of the paradox. Things just get weird. It also got a lot of critical hate when it came out, and I just don’t see it. I was entertained all the way through and it left one or two images/concepts in my memory, namely the arm and the telefragged woman.
    My main problem with the Cloverfield Paradox is that its marketing and subsequent release, which are super interesting and cool, took away hype from Netflix’s other sci fi release that weekend, Altered Carbon, which I thoroughly enjoyed.

    I dunno, I tried to look at the lack of logic that way, but I just got more frustrated the more I thought about it.
    I haven’t watched Altered Carbon yet, but I’d like to give that one a go at some point.