Spider-Man vs. Nightwing

It’s time for a good old-fashioned Marvel-vs-DC showdown, folks!

Both are bouncy, martial-artist types, more used to shadows and skullduggery than outright bad-assitude. Spider-Man would win in feats of strength, because come on, what’s Dick Grayson got, the proportional strength of a robin? Please.

Nightwing has the edge in actual martial arts training, though. You don’t study under the GD Batman for that many years without getting pretty darn good.

Both can invent clever gadgets to help in the fight, and both have plenty of real-world experience mixing it up hand-to-hand.

Spidey has the enormous advantage of his Spider-Sense, though if it happens in a karaoke bar, you’d have to think Nightwing’s Robin’s Song would come in handy. If only that existed, right?

At the end of the day, though, I have to go with costume design, and on that score, Nightwing wins. I always dug the cool black and dark blue motif. Had he kept the doofy ponytail, I’d dock points, but he seems to have come to his follicle senses in time and gone clean.

But that’s just me, who would you choose?

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41 Responses to Spider-Man vs. Nightwing

  1. Boy, this is some tough business. I mean… Gosh, wow, how do you choose? I love both, I’ve played both in some great games… Well if it came right down to it, I think Nightwing has a better overall story arc from everything I’ve experienced. No doubt Spider-Man has had no picnic, but I think Nightwing has a better depth to him. His relationship with the Huntress and all the dodginess and murky complications really ground him as not just a hero, but a human. What’s Pete got, Mary Jane or Black Cat? I don’t see the same conundrums rising in a choice like that.

    Hey Jeff, there’s no voting pollbar! What gives?

  2. I say Spiderman all the way. I mean not that Nightwing isn’t cool, it’s just that I don’t see how normal-level martial arts and a few gadgets can stand up to spider-powers. I’m not even sure if Spiderman would be hurt by Nightwing’s punches and kicks. I basically see this fight going like this: Spiderman uses spidy-sense to dodge all of Nightwing’s attacks. For the most part Nightwing dodges Spiderman as well, but in the end Spidy corners Nightwing with webs and the fight is all over.

  3. Drago Smith

    Spider-man hands down. With the strength, speed, and spider sense he could take anything someone like Nightwing could throw at him. Love Nightwing, I actually think he’s one of the coolest heroes D.C. has next to Batman but lets face facts.

    Jeff, you should start a show like The Ultimate Warrior but for superheroes.

  4. Jeff, I’m not seeing the poll itself.

  5. Trekkie:
    Jeff, I’m not seeing the poll itself.

    Ooooops. ::blush:: It’s there now, thanks for the heads-up, Trekkie.

  6. Well this is certainly a conundrum of two fantastic characters.

    However, in all fairness to Dick, Spider-man has this utterly and completely. That’s not to say that Dick hasn’t gone against and conquered foes with superior strength before. One of his main enemies was Blockbuster, who had pretty decent levels of superhuman strength. Not to mention Nightwing has been on several teams with more than a few members who can bench press a pickup truck. You don’t study under the world’s greatest (and most paranoid) detective without picking up a few habits of observation. Furthermore as an experienced team leader it’s his business to know the weaknesses and limitations of his team’s abilities, including those with super strength. Fair enough.

    However, Peter doesn’t just outclass him in terms of super-strength. He is more agile, faster, and has quicker reflexes than Dick could ever hope to achieve through training. On top of that he has his spider sense to warn him of impending attacks and (possibly trumping any explosive gadgets Nightwing could toss his way) his webbing, which he has been able to use in incredibly versatile ways during his career as a superhero. This might actually be one of the few fights where the winning opponent doesn’t necessarily have to go in for the kill to come out on top. Spider-man all the way.

  7. Really tough here… part of the costuming is that Spider-Man isn’t really as much a “stealth” type character as Nightwing. It’s very much a draw for me though… They’re both among the favorites in both Marvel and DC respectively.

  8. Nightwing. He was trained both as an aerialist/acrobat and later as a fighter by the goddamn Batman. The original Boy Wonder, the second half of the Dynamic Duo, he is one of the best fighters in the DCU. Stack that up against Peter Parker who only got his powers due to piss poor luck and you can see why as strong as Spidey is, skill and badassery trumps last second dodges. If by any chance, a bit of symbiote were to get on Nightwing, the Wall-Crawler would be epically screwed.

  9. Was this originally going to be Spider-man vs Batman?

    Cause we all know how that’d go

    http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/496/295778djliwss2.jpg

  10. I like Nightwing more, but I think Spider-Man would win…

  11. I wouldn’t count Spider-man as a completely untrained civilian, despite Nightwing’s extensive combat training. He’s been operating as a super-hero since he was sixteen. If we assume he’s at the youngest 26, that amounts to at least a decade of superheroics! Not to mention he’s a card-carrying member of the Avengers, having operated under (and presumably having been trained by) Captain America himself. Plus even if Nightwing, with his outclassed strength level, manages to physically injure Spider-man; he’s shown that he is capable of fighting far past physical extremes of pain (his fight with Morlun? Lost an eye, broken ribs, broken arm, still trying his best to fight)

    In addition he has a keen scientific mind. Among his inventions the thus far un-reproduced webshooters, the spider tracers, and countless additions and enhancements to his suit for specific instances. He’s incredibly resourceful on top of his genius level intellect, so let’s not pretend that Peter is just some idiot who stumbled into spider powers.

  12. since when does nightwing invent gadgets?

  13. I guess my pronoun assignment might have been a little vague. I was referring to Spider-man pretty much the entire time.

  14. barbario:
    since when does nightwing invent gadgets?

    Er, you’re probably right. He likely just gets them from Bruce.

  15. nightwing/daredevil might have been a closer fight. spidey just owns nightwing all day. during bagleys run he took a full on punch from the hulk.
    hes as fast if not faster than dick and hes ten times stronger.

  16. barbario:
    nightwing/daredevil might have been a closer fight. spidey just owns nightwing all day. during bagleys run he took a full on punch from the hulk.
    hes as fast if not faster than dick and hes ten times stronger.

    Concur.

  17. Yeah if it were Nightwing Vs Daredevil.
    I could imagine that Nighwing would be all cocky and put a blind fold on
    just to make it a fair fight.
    LOL

  18. Characterwise, I like them both, however, in terms of power, Spider-Man just massively outclasses him. DiCicatriz summed it up very, very well. I think Spider-Man is of a caliber he would pose a serious threat to even the Bat.

  19. I’m going for Spidey with this one. Sure, I think he can beat Nightwing on his own, the combination of Webshooters, super strength, insane agility, and Spider sense seems like a winner. But also because ol’ Webhead needs all the help he can get in this poll. I honestly think he can take Dick down, but between the community’s penchant to vote for all things Batman, and the fact that Jeff seems to display an anti-Spidey bias on Tuesdays for any poll Spider-Man is a part of, to the point that I suspect Arachnophobia, I’m not sure that Spidey will win out this week, despite his current lead and that most of the commenters are siding with Peter Parker.

  20. Myro:
    I honestly think he can take Dick down

    tee hee…yes I know I’m immature, but you ALL were thinking it too. ;)

  21. Dan: tee hee…yes I know I’m immature, but you ALL were thinking it too.

    Guilty as charged. Actually, I had to rewrite that sentence because the first time it read even more dirty. I honestly was hoping everyone would keep a relatively pure frame of mind and not read it like that, but when you are dealing with one guy named Dick, and another guy named Peter, and I don’t want to refer to them by their superhero name in every sentence, it’s difficult not to make it sound like a Weiner joke.

  22. I think Spider-man may be in more trouble than you think. I think, like Batman Grayson is a tactition, BECAUSE he has no super powers. But tell you the truth I think if Spider-man doesn’t let Nightwing get into his head, because let’s face it with all his outward cockyness there is still a bit of that akward nerd who lost his father figure to his stupidness. With that said I hesitatingly go with Spidey on this one.

  23. Myro: I honestly think he can take Dick down, but between the community’s penchant to vote for all things Batman, and the fact that Jeff seems to display an anti-Spidey bias on Tuesdays for any poll Spider-Man is a part of, to the point that I suspect Arachnophobia,

    Hey now! I love Spidey! I deliberately did NOT put him up against Batman because I knew he’d lose the vote, as anything tends to.

  24. Patriot_Missile

    Trained by The Bat, Nightwing can and would take down Spidey so hard his Spider-Senses will tingle his brain right out it’s spandex casing. IF he absolutely had to.

  25. punkjay: I think Spider-man may be in more trouble than you think. I think, like Batman Grayson is a tactition, BECAUSE he has no super powers. But tell you the truth I think if Spider-man doesn’t let Nightwing get into his head, because let’s face it with all his outward cockyness there is still a bit of that akward nerd who lost his father figure to his stupidness. With that said I hesitatingly go with Spidey on this one.

    That being said, Spider-man is also versed in tactics; other than his gadgets and his creative use of whatever his environment offers (barrels to throw at villains, subway tunnels to block with webbing, etc.) his infamous wisecracks serve as distraction and a psychological device – jesting makes him look like less intimidating to an opponent, and taunting make them angry so they might make mistakes. Grayson may think he comes prepared, but Spidey still has the tactical edge. That is, like PunkJay said, if it doesn’t get too psychological, and then all bets are off.
    And as for the costume design, Jeff, Spider-Man still wins. It’s very hard to make patterning work on a superhero suit without overcomplicating the overall design, but Ditko had pulled it off. It works because the web patterns compliment the hero’s muscular features, but it’s not dominant. Notice that the only designs to ever stick are the ones with the web pattern, no matter the color scheme (Original, Ben Reilly, Miles Morales, Spidergirl)

  26. yeah people have built Batman up so much. I am honestly over Batman. Everyone says Superman is lame because hes so strong he cant be hurt. An Batman is great cuz hes a regular (billionaire) guy. But he can beat everyone. Superman, Hulk, Darkseid you name it. Seems like Bats is the Mary Sue.

  27. Nightwing wins. Granted, Spider-man has many superpowers, but Grayson spent decades as sidekick to the Goddamn Batman. You can’t be partner to Goddamn Batman for decades without some of his awesomeness rubbing on to you. Spending 30 years just standing next to Him even I could beat the crap out of Spider-man.

  28. Jeff Hebert: Hey now! I love Spidey! I deliberately did NOT put him up against Batman because I knew he’d lose the vote, as anything tends to.

    Sure, now that it’s Wednesday !

    Actually, I admit I’m exaggerating the anti-Spider bias in that post. You do have a penchant for saying his costume and logo look a little too creepy on a couple poles, and I blew that up for my own purposes. *troll face*

  29. I have to go with Nightwing on this one. Remember, in the comics, Spidey’s fought many bad guys who were nothing more than highly-trained normals, and had trouble defeating them. Sure, he would win in the end, because that’s what heroes do.

    But, Nightwing is a cut above just being a trained normal, while he doesn’t have Spidey’s strength or speed, Dick fights just as much with his head as his fists. Spidey uses his head in a fight, but generally only if his fists don’t settle the matter. Whereas, Dick is thinking and planning the whole battle, which makes up for his lack of powers.

  30. I still call rampant batman fanboyism on the Dick supporters (natch!) Comparing him to non-powered human Spider-man rogues is kind of a moot point since almost all of his human counterparts had some kind of enhancement (doc ock- tentacles, mysterio- highly advanced illusory technology/costume, etc.) or they employed the use of powerful robotic or posthuman agents. Dick has never been primarily a gadgeteer. He relies much more on his physical prowess and strategy. Heck even Batman’s relies more on his technology. So a few billy clubs, some smoke bombs, and a batarang or two don’t exactly compare to a set of adamantium tentacles or an arsenal of holographic projectors and charged explosives.

    I’m not saying Dick isn’t formidable, I’ll even concede he’s most likely a better strategist than Spider-Man; but Spider-man is an established genius who has fought alongside the greatest tactician in the Marvel U. He took on the X-men by himself (including Nightcrawler, Cyclops, Wolverine, Storm, Rogue, Colossus…) and had them on the ropes. His strength level (alongside his exceedingly higher agility/speed capabilities) is just waaay too much. Not even counting his webbing and spider-sense. It might not be a landslide victory, but hanging out with Batman a lot does not offset the major disadvantages Dick has in this fight. :P

  31. DiCicatriz:
    Next poll?!?!

    http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l607/DiCicatriz/batmanvsgalactus.jpg

    Ha! Clearly, that big purple-helmeted fool is goin’ down!

  32. It’s true, Spider-Man can play in the big leagues. But he can also be knocked unconscious by a random bank robber. If losing to Nightwing somehow makes his civilian job harder, or makes him feel unusually guilty, or complicates his love life, then he’ll lose.

  33. Blazing Tornado

    Nightwing all the way. He’s proven himself good enough to take over the reins of the being the G-D Batman. He’s more resourceful and smart than Spidey is, unfortunately, and the proportional strength of a spider can only get you so far.

    He also has cutting objects to get out of any web trap Spidey would make.

  34. ok
    1. if anyone thinks nightwing should win just because he was trained by some good superheroes(i.e. batman) you are an idiot
    2. i vote for spider man
    3. this battle is all about ( well just about all battles) are about location location location

  35. Spiderman all the way. His superhuman abilities, his experience, and his intellect will put Nightwing down hard and fast. Spiderman is just way to strong and fast for a mere mortal, one punch and nighty-boy is out.

  36. NIGHTWING IS THE MOST BEAST, EPIC, AMAZING HERO IN THE HISTORY OF HEROS. ALL WHO BELIEVE OTHERWISE CAN ANSWER TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  37. I don’t see how we can argue with that many exclamation points.

  38. Jeff Hebert: I don’t see how we can argue with that many exclamation points.

    BELIEVE IT!

  39. everyone spider man would win the trailer has a guy like croc and bat man would beat night wing right.well on arkham asylum batman ran from croc so spider mans beating a guy thats kinda the same strength,good at scaring people good,and climing is same as swimming exept u need a long claw.well spidey beats him up and guess what tada i said it suckas so… VOTE FOR SPIDER MAN PEOPLE WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  40. Nightwing may have an advantage in actual training, but all of that is thrown out with Spider-Sense. Spider-Man can sense attacks before they happen.