Character Contest 39: Dinomarines!

We're going to mix it up a bit this week and try something new with the character creation contest:

Your challenge is to create a member of the elite super team known as the "Dinomarines" (with thanks to Seventh Sanctum for the name)!

Next week I'll pick what I consider to be the best, coolest looking, most creative submissions who will form the Dinomarines, and you all will get to vote on which of them you think is the best, and thus the leader of the team. I have to admit, I am almost giddy with anticipation about what you all will come up with! Are they humanoid dinosaurs in military garb hunting down Terrans? Or are the Earthlings whose mission is to hunt down dinosaurs? Or just regular elite marines who took the nickname Dinomarines in honor of their ferocity?

How should I know, that's up to you!

Otherwise the rules are per usual:

  • You must upload a JPG (good) or PNG (best) of your character(s) to a publicly accessible web site like PhotoBucket or ImageShack or whatnot;
  • Links to each entry's image must be left in a comment or comments to this post, preferably with a name for the character and a brief sentence or two about who they are, why they're in the Dinomarines, and possibly just what the heck the Dinomarines are in the first place;
  • All submissions are due by whenever I get around to checking them on Monday, July 19.

No limit on entries this week, so let 'em fly. Good luck!

One last special plea: please check your links before you post them, in a browser where you're not logged in to the site (like I'll be doing). A lot of times the links you give go to a preview mode instead of to the actual graphic, and I have to try and figure out how to get to the image. Or with Facebook links, sometimes links are to pages where no one but you can get to.

Also, please save your image with the character's name before posting it to the site, it makes keeping them all straight much easier for me. So instead of the default hm3beta-1.png or whatnot, name it DinoMarineJessie.png or somesuch. If you want super special extra suck-up points, you could do what I do, and name it with your user name and then a dash and then the character name, like TopHat-ColonelTRex.png.

Neither of those last two points are "rules" per se, they just make it easier on me on Mondays when I'm cataloging all the submissions. Thanks!

142 Responses to Character Contest 39: Dinomarines!

  1. MLS says:

    This contest couldn’t wait until the Rifles were done?

  2. Danny Beaty says:

    DINO-MARINES! Saturday on Syfy! Imagine why!

  3. MLS says:

    Alright, I’ll have a preliminary set of Rifles ready later tonight. I have all the initial long-arms done and I have a good start on the submachine guns; I haven’t started on sci-fi rifles. I’m not ready to start taking requests just yet, but this will be a good test run to see how everything works so far. So of your dino-marine concept needs a rifle, give me a few hours and we’ll have some.

  4. Vampyrist says:

    Here is my take on a Dinomarine, Sergeant Rex Tyrannis. He’s the meanest and strongest drill sergeant around who could make a velociraptor scared.

  5. The Imp says:

    ‘DinoMarine Jessie’? I’d hate to be Jessie’s girl…

  6. Me, Myself & I says:

    General Kurn, or General Bloodbath as he’s known unoficially by most of the Dinomarine Corpse, is a veteran of afew wars. Always in the thick of things. He leads by example and, more often than his officers would like, in the trenches along side his soldiers. General Bloodbath comes from a harsh world and has an even harsher personality.

    General Kurn

    General Kurn Close Up

  7. VonMalcolm says:

    Uh-Oh, I thought a fantasy contest was around the corner: I had three characters (and their party) locked and loaded (one of which I stayed up all night building). Oh Well, back to the drawing board. . . so to speak.

  8. Haxxx says:

    Full Metal Raptor
    Straight out of Vietnam comes this Marine Dino.
    His gun actually is fired by a hinge beneath the middle claw,while the two back claws hold the gun.

  9. Gargoyle323 says:

    Col.Wooly is the commander of the 75th Ranger Regiment.
    (Technically this is an Army group,not a marine group,but I wanted to use the beret with this character)

  10. Legatus says:

    Hi Jeff,

    I was surprised that you didn’t mention the UGO forums as possible upload sites. Here is my contribution:

    and on UGO:

  11. Me, Myself & I says:

    Every kids favourite TV show is Dinomarines! It airs every Monday to Friday just after school is out. There is humour and heroics and best of all, the good guys always win. Make sure you tune in to see Captain Dinomarine and his loyal marines!

    Captain Dinomarine

    Captain Dinomarine Close Up

  12. Bloodless Rose says:

    After much deliberation and experimentation i have concocted:

    Sgt. Rex

    Once known as Sgt. Robert Kellan, his exceptional skills in combat and leadership boosted him into the “Dino Marine Corps” Expedition. Implanted with Dinosaur DNA he is one of the Elite designed for quick and easy kills with a rifle or his Dino DNA. This is one mean Dino Marine

  13. Tango says:

    Sgt. Cody “T-Dog” Thompson

    Known for his recklessness both on and off the battlefield as much as for his brilliant battle strategy, Sgt. T-Dog is the best of the best. When the terrorist organization known as “The Hive” first began their attacks against America, he was one of the first to sign up. Today, he’s one of a few soldiers who is not only good at killing Hive Troops (or “Pests” as the Dino-Marines call them), but he has fun doing it too.

  14. Jeff Hebert says:

    Clearly, UGO Forums are fine for posting images. I don’t list every possible site, just a sampling, and while I usually try to make a point to include the forums on the list I forgot this time around. But the list isn’t exhaustive, any public web site is fine.

  15. joel says:

    her’s a submission.

    on the far distant planet of Jesrak, there lives an alien race. though they are in fact, not so alien after all. long ago, this race sent some of their primitive species to earth in order to have them evolve and colonize the planet over millions of years (thus they could expand their race without needing to send their own men to the strange new planet). the creatures they sent over were our dinosaurs. their plan failed however, and it was ultimately the apes that took earth for their own. so now, the Jesraktors have sent their best warriors (the Dino Marines) to destroy all of the evolved apes and take the planet that was theirs all those millions of years ago. and so they send the leader of these super warriors: Tyranator K’ahn. and here he is:

  16. joel says:

    here’s a completely different Dino marines: during the second world war, Hiroshima was working in secret to develop a deadly super soldier that combined Japanese assassins with reptilian DNA.The project was originally called Project Oni. after the war however, when the US bombed Hiroshima, they found the super soldier research. they stole it and renamed the project “the Dino Marines”.

  17. Iberian Dinomarine: Not all prehistoric lizards use night vision goggles and sniper rifles.

    @All: Looking good!

  18. Marx says:

    @Me, Myself & I – I laughed out loud at Cpt Dinomarine. Love the tie effect. I’d wear a tie like that… if I wore ties.

    @Tango – Absolutely phenomenal work on T-Dog. Love the weapon, love the personality, love the backdrop. The peace sign is inspired. I can only hope to create a dino worthy of serving in his platoon.

    That said, where’s the love for the veggie-saurs? This is “Biloxi”, an Apatosaurus who from the deep south and serves with a Force Recon company. Biloxi is 25 tons of terror who don’t back down from no bone-gnawer.

  19. Me, Myself & I says:

    Thanx for the shout out Marx. Glad to entertain!

  20. VonMalcolm says:

    First: Marooned Marine: He is an ancient Marine swept out to sea by a tidal wave that occurred during a battle that was precipitated by a land raid. He had used his shield as a raft and his weapons as oars to make it to the Island Grim. Will he survive the Island let alone escape?

    Second: Jarhead (Jarhedley Lamarr?): A modern Dino-Marine.

    Third: Reptaur: Not really a Dino-Marine, just a Reptile Warrior.

  21. Cliffdiver Dinomarine: Dual-duty as scouts and ambushers.

  22. Jake says:

    @The Atomic Punk: I really like Iberian Dinomarine. Cool concept executed very well.

  23. The Imp says:

    LT. ‘Lizard’ Laroux: platoon leader, can-do soldier, and all-around badass:

  24. Me, Myself & I says:

    This Dinomarine is right out of Sir Arther Conan Doyle’s Lost World.

  25. Cliff says:

    Dinomarines Contest Entry #1

    Rrrrk K’ Tkk (make sure to roll the Rs of the first name and hock up some phlem on the last name)

    From the planet Repton, exists a warrior race which takes pleasure in sating it’s lust of battle and bloodshed. The elite fighring squad is called the Dinomarines, and the leader of the Dinomarines is Rrrrk K’ Tkk. Capable of destroying his enemies one on one in hand to hand or by planetary genocide with his advanced alien technology.



  26. joel says:

    Here’s another entry.

    you have seen many strange heroes throughout the ages. you have probably seen a fair number of them come from japan (along with creatures like Godzilla, Mothra etc.) with this in mind here’s the entry: whenever anyone in the fine city of Tokyo is in trouble, they can always call upon, The Dino-Marines. they are the ultimate heroes of justice who fight evil in all it’s forms. among these heroes are: Raptor Girl, Stego-King, and even Tricero. however none of them compare to the leader of the super team: Dinoman. he is the ultimate champion of all that is good, (he even comes with his own crotch protector). here he is: Dinoman!

  27. Cliff says:

    (Forgive any military Faux Pas, I am NOT a military guy. I’d don’t know if the Marines have some of the specialist I have created, but in MY fantasy world … they do LOL)

    So you wondered what happened to the genetic samples that were previously stolen and smuggled off of Jurrasic Park.
    The Military got them, and used the genetic material to create a group of ultimate fighting machines of course.


    Ty Ceratops
    Not a gentle giant, Ty is ready to fight at little provocation, even if it is hand to hand with his own squad of Dinomarines




    Bronte is a quite, contemplative soul. It is this contemplative qualities, along with his long neck that makes him excellent in Recon Surveilence and communications, plus his endurance to carry the heavy equipment.




    Kyle is short and stout, but his natural armour make him a superieor choice for Demilitions. Thanks to his coloration he is effortlessly skilled in Desert comoflauge, His armour spikes and spiked tail balance out his slower reflexes in combat.



    Need some aerial assist for extra ammo, weapons, food/water or first aid … call Terrell.
    As long as he doesn’t get sidetracked swooping down and eating a cow or native to sate his ravenous appetite.


    Wide Angle (Sorry about the tongue underlap on these next two. It was correct in the one above, but wanted to show the wingspan and face detail anyway)!/photo.php?pid=143781&id=100000780936307


    (There were dino super crocs, and Sarc’s one of them)
    Sarc is a natural in the water for underwater demilitions or covert infiltration and evacuation.




  28. Danny Beaty says:

    Hi gang! Good luck to everyone!


    This was the first attempt to create a dinosaur-human hybrid warrior. Unfortunately, the creature’s mind reverted to a totally reptillian state and the test subject had to be eauphanised.

    SGT. REX

    Sgt. Rex is a tough as nails special-ops soldier.


    A recruitment poster for the Dinomarines, an elite force fighting savage dinosauroids on a newly discovered planet.

  29. Galahad says:

    Lt. Henry “Wrangler” Wilcox would have been a poacher in another life. An expert at traps and tracking, he didn’t give a second thought when one of the kooky science types the Marines are always havin’ to protect asked him, “Do you want to travel through time to hunt dinosaurs?”

  30. Cliff says:

    Dinomarines Contest Entry #7
    Tyra Rex
    Wherever there are fighting men, there are the women who will lighten their … uh … wallets!
    You might wonder how such a creature came to life if the Government were the ones creating the Elite Fighting Machines. The Dinomarines really couldn’t care less.



  31. Danny Beaty says:

    I thought of another one!


    Alternative X was created as a dinomarine, an amphibious reptile to be used as a weapon, but couldn’t be controlled.

  32. Cliff says:

    Dinosaur Contest Entry #8
    (OK, its a stretch, but I had to do it before someone else did LOL)

    Directly escaped from Bat-Rex from an alternate Earth,
    Jokerapter set out wrecking havoc on Earth Prime once he set claws on American soul.
    He has become an arch enemy of the Dinomarines with hit and run tactics which keeps him one stride ahead of his Reptile Rivals.



  33. Jack Zelger says:

    This isn’t an entry, but this contest reminded me of this panel from Calvin and Hobbes:

  34. Hammerknight says:

    Code Name T-REX
    There came a time then the only way to save our future was to travel to the past. Earth was dying, and the only way to save it was to go back into time and bring back a compound that time has forgot. This compound could only be found on earth in the time of the Dinosaurs. So a newly formed group of Marines were assigned the task. The United States Dino Marine Corp was up for the job. The commander of the mission was Code Named T-REX.

  35. Skybandit says:

    Okay, okay, I’ll make some good guys too. Some Black Ops projects in recombinant DNA by various services resulted in the Dino-Marines. From left to right: Allidile, an Army desert warfare creation; Quetzlkan, an Air Force high-altitude flier; and Crocagator, deep Navy diver. Since none of the three Armed Forces knew what to do with these weird things, they gave ’em to the Marines!

  36. Me, Myself & I says:

    The Dinomarines deployed the specialized Beachstormer troops when they had to take any heavily defended beachhead. The Beachstomers troops are extremely quick and maneuverable on their hoverbikes.

    Dinomarine Beachstormer

    Dinomarine Beachstormer Close Up

  37. Nick Hentschel says:

    It may be a weird concept, but it occurs to me that, what with all the trouble they’ll surely get into, SOMEONE has to sew these animals back together! To that end, I give you: NURSE RAPTOR, USMC!!!

  38. Galactic Ketchup says:

    Sergeant Ulysses ‘Sharpeye’ Abraham

    The Dinomarines are the result of a government operation to create an elite unit of warriors capable of winning the war against the Shadow Nation, a mysterious island which came to this world through an interdimensional tear in the fabric of the universe, which completely destroyed the island of Hawaii when it opened before spewing forth the Shadow Nation, who then declared war on the USA by completely eradicating the state of California. Ulysses Abraham was one of the first Dinomarines, and he is unique amongst his fellow Dinos. A genetic fault left him without legs and missing his left arm from below the elbow, but his skin is twice as thick and durable as other Dinos. Fitted with bionic legs and a mechanical arm, Ulysses is a mixture of monster and machine. Of all his mutations, however, the most tactically advantageous is his right eye. His left eye is half-blind, and as a result he leaves it covered with an eyepatch, but his right eye can see ten times further and clearer than anything else on this planet, earning him the nickname ‘Sharpeye’. His weapon of choice is his custom-built sniper rifle ‘Georgia’, which he named after the state in which the fossil which provided his DNA was found (Dinomarines are the result of combining human stem cells with dinosaur DNA). Ulysses rarely joins his fellow Marines in frontier combat, more often embarking on solo missions where he can snipe enemies from afar. His ability to kill an enemy from incredible distances has struck fear into the hearts of the Shadowed Ones, who call him ‘The Phantom’ as they never know when he is watching them.

  39. Marx says:

    A rare second entry. Lance Corporal Tuscon hails from the south west. He’s the support gunner for his squad.

  40. Nick Hentschel says:

    Here’s a revised drawing. I don’t really care about the contest; I just thought that I could do a better drawing. So, here’s “Nurse Raptor,” Take 2, with more animal traits, a little more skin, and platinum hair, in honor of “Hot Lips” Houlihan. 😉

    “Take care of your little sister,” the future Nurse Ramsey’s mother used to say to her son, when he was little, and went off to another tour at an army medical assignment. Then she’d turn right around to her even smaller daughter and say, “Don’t let your brother hurt himself.” That pretty much set the tone for their relationship, right through to their enlistments. So when her brother (it could be any of the other characters) joined up for this radical new assignment, he knew damn well that “the little lieutenant” would be following him.
    At first, the new until wasn’t willing to take a woman, until they realized that SOMEONE would have to treat these soldiers! So they experimented with their new field nurse, and now the Dinomarines are a boys’ club no more.
    So now, the unit has a new regulation: no one dies on her watch. With a nurse’s training and predator’s instinct, she sprints thourgh gunfire, leaps over barricades, and claws her way through the enemy to save her “boys.” And don’t tell her it’s “just a scratch”: with her nose for blood, she’ll know you’re hurt before YOU do.
    So sit your tail down, soldier, and do what the nurse says. Because someone has to take care of you animals, and no one dies on her watch. Not today; not EVER.

  41. maniacmick says:

    Sgt. Hazard the heavy weapons specialist of the DinoMarines

  42. Phatchick says:

    The Dinomarines were a group of the best personal in the armed forces. Each one was an expert in his or her field of combat. To further enhance their fighting ability their DNA was combined with those of prehistoric animals.
    DynaSoar was one of the Air Force’s top pilots. Her DNA was combine with a terranadon, giving her flight as well as exeptional eyesight and hearing.
    SmoothSabre was a Marine with experience in urban warfare. She’s now part sabretooth tiger with superhuman speed, strength and agility. She also prefers blades over guns for fighting.

  43. maniacmick says:

    Colonel Rex and the 1st Division of the DinoMarines
    The human army colonel in charge of the elite Humanoid Dinosaur military unit. He may be human, but he is just as deadly as his dino subordinates

  44. Marx says:

    Apparently I really got into this contest. Here’s my third contribution, PFC Fargo, a Dino Marine Scout/Sniper.

  45. Marx says:

    Given the number of claws and fangs in this contest, I challenged myself to come up with herbivore dino marines. I came up with concepts for a stegosaurus, a triceratops, and an apatosaurus (aka brontosaurus). Turned out to be a lot of fun, even if none of them make it into the finals. Just for laughs, I decided to combine my three entries into one Dino Marine tryptic of the entire Force Recon fire team.

    (Yes, I used Photoshop to combine the three pics. This is not an “official” entry)

  46. Nick Hentschel says:

    Don’t blame yourself for feeling enthusiastic, Marx; this is a really fun idea, with a lot of potential! If we all kept going with it, we probably could turn this into a well-worked-out, highly amusing parody of the action/cartoon/toy concept. Possibly a saleable one! I say we keep playing with it.

    As for throwing some compliments around, I’d like to say that the outer two pictures, esp. the stegosaur drawing, are very good; I like that you were able to make it look like he’s walking, instead of just posing.
    I’d also like to throw my endorsement behind the “Shadow Nation” concept for the DMs, proposed earlier: that’s what I based my character on.

  47. Cliff says:

    I was just going to do a non-reptile looking non-breed specific female Dinomarine. I had the basic face then decided to Mask the Predator headplate on for texture. then more and more alien head peieces were added till the original concept went out the window (… to be picked up later?) and I created:

    Dinomarine Contest Entry #9

    There has been some speculation were the growing population of “Reptuns” have come from. Reptuns being the name some papers have coined for the new breed of Reptile Humans such as the Dinomarines.
    From the discovery and sensationalization of self styled “Please-osaurus, emphasis on the PLEASE” Tyra, the first known female,
    and subsequent revalation of Trias, a small border town of Reptons.
    it is theorized, by some, that the Dinomarines are the first of a new race called Homo Sauros, and there is some fear the influx of these inhuman humanoids.

    But others know the Dinomarines weren’t the first. The first Human Dinosaur was:

    Fusion: Mother of Madess, The Brood Queen!
    And she still lives.

    Fusion started out 70 years ago as a prototype, the first experimentation towards creating an ultimate soldier, a Dinomarine. This top secret government, called Project Lilith, used multiple Dino DNA on a human volenteer.
    This “volenteer” was Lilly Munroe, a female Marine who had gotten into some trouble and didn’t have much say in the matter at that point, either volenteer or be court martialed.
    After countless tests, treatments and injections, something started to happen … and then it went horribly wrong. Lilly began to morph in un-projected and very painful ways. Her face became to become reptillian, She began to grow strange growths, and protrusions both on her face and body. Her skin changed color, became thicker. Her hands became pincers, her feet precensile clawed hands. Her senses, her reflexes, stamina and strength were all boosted, her body became near inprevious. In pain and fury she lashed out wrecking the labratory and killing many of the scientiest and posted marines while making her excape.
    She found herself on the run with the military tracking her. She ended up in a distant un-named jungle, and she also found herself unexplainable … pregnant.

    Now Fusion has further mutated, she’s grown and ‘wears’ an organic crown crest of spikey growths, setting off her flared bone collar and a mass of shoulder protrusions. She also has an ‘bio corset’ plate and living ‘tentacle skirt’.
    She lives in her subterrainian cave in the jungle giving birth to eggs, hatching them and letting them loose on the world.



  48. tredlow says:

    Here’s my take:

    Tyrannosaurus Tex

    Like all Dinomarines, Tex was born when a benevolent alien created powerful warriors to defend the galaxy using fossils that he thought were Earth’s dominant species. Tex was engineered mostly out of T-Rex fossils, which made his arms tiny and almost useless. So, they gave him robot arms.

    Now THAT’S a Saturday morning cartoon I’d watch.

  49. Marx says:

    @Nick #53 – Dude! I would totally watch that cartoon! Thanx for the kind words. I loved your Hot-Lips Houlihan tribute. Brilliant idea! The micro-fiction you wrote up for her was really well done.

  50. GalacticKetchup says:

    2.5b7*m3*Colonel Henrik Dryden*Hair:Standard,spikehawk,DC0028,FF0000,100,100,23,Eyebrows:Standard,eyebrows1,DC0028,FF0000,100,100,21,Eyes:Standard,newplain,8CCFF9,8CCFF9,100,100,20,Nose:Standard,thincurve,F8B684,F8B684,100,100,27,Mouth:Standard,smirk,F8B684,F79E72,100,100,18,Beard:Standard,fraBlank,FFFFFF,FFFFFF,100,100,26,Ears:Standard,fraBlank,FFFFFF,FFFFFF,100,100,19,Skin:Standard,fraBlank,F79E72,F8B684,100,100,6,Mask:Standard,fraBlank,FFFFFF,FFFFFF,100,100,22,Headgear:Standard,fraBlank,FFFFFF,FFFFFF,100,100,29,Undershirt:Standard,gloved,070707,000000,100,100,7,Overshirt:Standard,fraBlank,FFFFFF,FFFFFF,100,100,8,Coat:Expansion1,scifi,395C08,538610,100,100,25,RightGlove:Expansion1,nofingers,000000,395C08,100,100,17,LeftGlove:Expansion1,nofingers,000000,395C08,100,100,16,Insignia:Standard,fraBlank,FFFFFF,FFFFFF,100,100,9,Neckwear:Standard,fraBlank,FFFFFF,FFFFFF,100,100,24,Belt:Standard,fraBlank,FFFFFF,FFFFFF,100,100,15,Leggings:Standard,stockings,000000,070707,100,100,10,Overleggings:Standard,fraBlank,FFFFFF,FFFFFF,100,100,11,Pants:Expansion1,scifi,395C08,538610,100,100,14,RightFoot:Expansion1,mecha,395C08,538610,100,100,13,LeftFoot:Expansion1,mecha,395C08,538610,100,100,12,Back:Expansion1,ninja,DDDDDD,395C08,100,100,3,Wings:Standard,fraBlank,FFFFFF,FFFFFF,100,100,4,Tail:Expansion1,fraBlank,FFFFFF,FFFFFF,100,100,5,Aura:Standard,fraBlank,FFFFFF,FFFFFF,100,100,2,Companion:Humanoids,fraBlank,DDDDDD,395C08,100,100,31,Background:Photos,fraBlank,FFFFFF,FFFFFF,100,100,1,RightHand:Firearms,m60,CFCFCF,848484,100,100,30,LeftHand:Firearms,shotgun-long,DDDDDD,5A3410,100,100,28,#

    Colonel Henrik Dryden (different concept, this time the Dinomarines are human supersoldiers that adopted the name)

    The son of a US General and a Swedish super model, Henrik spent his life growing up in army bases. When America was pulled through an interdimensional tear into the curious Shadow Continent, the initial attack by the native army resulted in the death of Henrik’s father. To combat this new threat, the government recomissioned the Super Soldier program, the experiment which led to the creation of Mr America in the 1940s. Henrik signed up, and three years later he became a member of the Dinomarines, later becoming the unit’s leader following his actions in Operation Kobayashi Maru, where he singlehandedly killed an entire enemy unit with his bare hands. Armed with his father’s old shotgun, his own katanas and whatever other weapons he can lay his hands on, and always accompanied by his combat drone ‘R3X’, Henrik Dryden is a cold, efficient killing machine.

  51. GalacticKetchup says:

    Sorry for all the code btw, 3.0 didn’t have the armour I needed :L

  52. Jack Zelger says:

    OK, I will admit that for this one I may have broken the rules a bit. I’ve got three characters in one image, I used “companions” instead of creating a figure and these guys are more dragons than dinosaurs. But I had so much fun making it, I don’t care. 🙂

    No long back story here. It’s all self-evident:

  53. Gargoyle323 says:

    The Dinomarines are a special ops unit trained to deal with alien or strange adversaries.They are under order to stop all threats with extreme and complete prejudice.

  54. MartianBlue says:

    It’s been awhile since I’ve entered one of these, or even made a new character for that matter, but I couldn’t resist the challenge this week. So with that said, I give you…

    Trax of The Dino Marines

  55. The Dinomarines: Because an M-16 can’t take down a brontosaurus.

    @Jake: Thanks! I struggled with the head at first. Then I realized that if you offset a slightly larger “Head”, it creates the jaw.

  56. Steve M. says:

    Okay, first off, I apologize for the slightly slap-dash quality of the images. It’s been a crap week here so far, so this is the best I can do right now. I may reupload them in better quality later. Anyway, here we go:

    A shadow faction of the US Military handed Dr. Furman collected research into dinosaur capabilities, viral injection vectors, and recombinant DNA. With this information and inspiration from his childhood, Dr. Furman was able to create the Dinomarines, a special ops alpha team, genetically altered soldiers using their new abilities in service of their country, all the while struggling to control their new instincts.

    Col. Henry Osborn – Codename: Megaraptor

    Lt. Col. Edward Cope – Codename: Torosaur

    Maj. Othniel Marsh – Codename: Rontosaur

    Maj. Charles Gilmore – Codename: Stegros

    Maj. George Olshevsky – Codename: Pterodonis

    5 bonus bragging points to whomever can tell me what team I drew my inspiration from for these guys. 20 bonus bragging points to whomever can figure out where I got the characters “real names” from.

  57. MartianBlue says:

    I may have overlooked it but I didn’t see a prize for winning. As a team, not the overall winner, a custom illustration of the dino marines would be cool, with the creators credited???

    Some pretty neat creations thus far, keep up the good work, and good luck.

  58. Marx says:

    @MartianBlue #65 – Awesome! That’s the best tri-horn dino I’ve seen yet. Way better than mine. And great job kitting him out. Love the knife sheath strapped to the holster.

  59. MartianBlue says:

    [#65 Replace]
    Trax of The DinoMarines

    slightly adjusted nose/mouth and added dog tags.

    Thaniks Marx, I wanted to do something different than everyone else. The knife was more or less cause I’d ran out of room, but I thought it worked.
    Out of yours, the sniper is my favorite, very cool pose, really gives the sense of stalking his prey.

  60. Cliff says:

    @61 Jack Zelger
    You did great with your Dino-Marines and I don’t see how you broke any rules!
    BUT you did make me notice the 3 dragons (well 2 at least) I had somehow overlooked for the most part,
    SO! Upon that discover I had to do these two:!/photo.php?pid=145634&id=100000780936307!/photo.php?pid=145633&id=100000780936307

  61. Jeff Hebert says:

    I was a bit sloppy in the wording of the post, my apologies. The whole “team” really is just what the Finalists would be in any other week, with no prize except (like with the Caption Contests) getting profiled in a separate post and having a chance at the overall win.

    The Finalist (team member) who gets the most votes the following week (again like the caption contests) will be the prize winner, receiving the usual item or portrait.

  62. MartianBlue says:

    Thanks for clarifying that Jeff. I mistook you for meaning your were going to choose an actual team out of the entrants.

  63. Watson Bradshaw says:

    Capt. Mac Dugger is the leader of the oldest elite combat group around, dubbed “The DinoMarines!”
    In 1943 the government experimented with a elite group of young soldiers to give them inhuman strength and speed. what they didn’t realize is that those powers would stay with them well into their golden years, and when the world needs them again these geriatric Goliaths are there to hear the call…in their good ear!

  64. Cliff says:

    Dinomarine Contest Entry #10

    Here is Kyle, Ty and Bronte, of the Dinomarines being dropped at a targeted sight from an Osprey. Terrell is flying in on his own power.

    The Motto of the Dinomarines:
    Semper Deinos
    Always “Fearfully-Great”, “Terrible”, “Powerful”, or “Wondrous

    Ty: “I am Fearfully-Great!”

    Bronte: “I thought he was always Terrible”

    Kyle: “I know the only thing Powerful about him is his BO”

    Terrell: “I’m Wonderous!” soaring around.

    Ty “I got your wonderous right here”

    Terrell “In your dreams!”

    Ty: “No, in YOURS”

  65. Gargoyle323 says:

    Sgt.”Dino-Might” is a demolitions expert for the Dinomarines
    special forces team.When you need something blown to pieces, he’s your man!(Er,…He’s your reptile)

  66. Watson Bradshaw says:

    contest entry 2
    Clifford T Briggs is the second officer of the oldest elite combat group around, dubbed “The DinoMarines!”
    In 1943 the government experimented with a elite group of young soldiers to give them inhuman strength and speed. what they didn’t realize is that those powers would stay with them well into their golden years, and when the world needs them again these geriatric Goliaths are there to hear the call…in their good ear!

  67. haz says:

    Corporal Rebecka Louise Jones:

    Genetically modified to colonize an inhospitable planet inhabited by less-than-friendly natives, Jones makes up for having a wholly unremarkable name by blowing things up on a regular basis.

  68. haz says:

    Okay, I’m going to try this again. I didn’t read the post fully (for shame, I know), and I haven’t used Photobucket before. And it shows in my last comment. Sorry. So, THIS image is the same as the previous one, but the file name is written correctly and the link takes you directly to the full-sized image.

    Corporal Rebecka Louise Jones:

    Genetically modified to colonize an inhospitable planet inhabited by less-than-friendly natives, Jones makes up for having a wholly unremarkable name by blowing things up on a regular basis.

  69. Watson Bradshaw says:

    Contest entry 3

    Jed “Tank” Williams is the gunner of the oldest elite combat group around, dubbed “The DinoMarines!”
    In 1943 the government experimented with a elite group of young soldiers to give them inhuman strength and speed. what they didn’t realize is that those powers would stay with them well into their golden years, and when the world needs them again these geriatric Goliaths are there to hear the call…in their good ear!

  70. Jack Zelger says:

    I figured I may as well use the item Jeff rewarded me with, so here’s Tankersaurus, a human/dinosaur hybrid tank-driving Marine. The tank commander headgear was my requested item.

  71. FelipeSCard says:

    Here’s the BoneCrusher, elites-quad DinoMarine

  72. Morzan says:

    No tale for now, I just present you Iberomesornis:

    Based on an actual proto-bird which can be seen here:

  73. GalacticKetchup says:

    Chak (original concept)

    A native warrior of the Shadow Nation, Chak fought in countless battles against the strange Earth Continent, before he was injured in battle against the newly formed Dinomarines regiment and captured by the humans. The humans were surprised to find that he was willing to give them the information they desired, as he had grown disillusioned with the Council of Elders’ totalitarian rule and the war they were fighting against the humans. He revealed that the only weaponry used by his kind were their traditional zaitano, swords that remarkably resemble katana and are forged from the wood of the Toatol’ok tree, which, when treated with the sap of the Great Karaii plant, became stronger than steel. For long-range combat, they summon fierce energies, coalescing them into orbs before sending them hurtling towards their enemies. When he had given all the information he could, the humans allowed him one request, expecting his answer to be free passage home. To their shock, he instead requested that he be allowed to fight alongside the Dinomarines, the mightiest warriors he had ever seen, and who had won his respect after that fateful battle. Now he has become an honorary member of the unit, gaining the trust of his fellow Marines, even the normally distrustful Sergeant Ulysses Abraham.

    It might be cheating a bit, but he was fun to create =D

  74. drummergirl4 says:

    PFC Shonna “Compy” Gleason
    “I said, ‘Don’t call me short!'”
    If you see her running, you better run too.

    Pvt Gerald “Spike” Tavera
    Dumb Muscle
    “So, what do I smash?”
    Totally thinks with his tail.

  75. Cliff says:

    Dinomarine Contest Entry

    There is another group the Military had recenly created. Project Turok, The Dino Hunters. Dino Hunters were created to take down the Dinomarines if they were to ever go rogue. Of course the Dino Hunters consider themself the TRUE Dino Marines, and the Dinomarines just a group of lizards who have grown too big for their britches.

    Major Anthony Layton,
    Capt Bert Sears,
    2nd Lt Jesus Lopez,
    Corporal Ken González,
    Lance Corporal Randy Elliott David Michelinie,
    Private 1st Class Bob Bedard.

    Dino Marine Sgt. Bert Sears firing on the rampaging Dino, as it crushes the jeep of Major Anthony Layton, hopefully before it can crush the major as well

  76. Cliff says:

    Dino Marine Contest Entry

    When it comes to fighting the big thunder lizards, sometimes you need the military’s top weaponry to even the playing field.

    Marine, Desert and Jungle/Forest Power Armour suits.!/photo.php?pid=146918&id=100000780936307

    (True, nothing special was done, but I like the concept and overall look)

  77. Watson Bradshaw says:

    Contest Entry 4
    Albert “Ghost” Vasquez is the Scout of the oldest elite combat group around, dubbed “The DinoMarines!”
    In 1943 the government experimented with a elite group of young soldiers to give them inhuman strength and speed. what they didn’t realize is that those powers would stay with them well into their golden years, and when the world needs them again these geriatric Goliaths are there to hear the call…in their good ear!

  78. Watson Bradshaw says:

    Contest Entry 4
    Albert “Ghost” Vasquez is the Scout of the oldest elite combat group around, dubbed “The DinoMarines!”
    In 1943 the government experimented with a elite group of young soldiers to give them inhuman strength and speed. what they didn’t realize is that those powers would stay with them well into their golden years, and when the world needs them again these geriatric Goliaths are there to hear the call…in their good ear!

  79. Cliff says:

    Bronte on some down time, using Ty’s rifle as a source for Uncle Saurus’ rifle.
    Bronte took some artistic liberties, on Uncle Saurus’ costume.!/editphoto.php?pid=146991

    Don’t know wether to count this as an actual entry or not, it doesn’t show Bronte exactly, although it does show Ty again. And I doubt anyone would actually vote Uncle Saurus as a Dinomarine team leader (as far as the HM3 contest goes) but I will let you all decide.

    (I had to do the entire pic in Close up mode, because that was as large as I could get the sketch pad and pencil.
    After the entire thing was done, I saved it, and I did Resize the Uncle Saurus sketch 300% to show the details better.) but while doing the piece it wasn’t altered at all.

  80. rancid says:

    @cliff- just press print screen then paste it in photoshop. problem sloved

  81. Decolda says:

    African Samurai Mammoth

    Imagine a Afriacn Old School Samurai, with basic armour and coloured bandan’s – now tranfrom that image into a wooley mammoth with 5 fingered wrist blades on either hand – this dino-marine may not have heavy weaponry or high tec equipment, but they do know how to fight!

  82. Me, Myself & I says:

    One very important but often overlooked player in the marines is the mechanic. Not to be left out here is a Dinomarine mechanic.

  83. Alex says:

    Capt.Calob Jericho and his unit of marines where assigned on a mission to take out a top secret Nazi laboratory but what they didn’t know was that the Nazi scientists where experimenting whit dinosaur DNA that they recreated from fossils.During the attack the unit was infected with the DNA.Three of Jericho’s men where killed and Jericho himself lost an eye.Later the men started having strange symptoms and the army scientists discovered a mutation of the mens DNA.That’s when the behavior changes began and one by one they all saw that they can change part of there bodies into dinosaurs.All of them had gotten stronger ,faster, more agile ,more durable ,they’re senses had increased.From then on they where the top secret Dinomarine Corps!

  84. Decolda says:

    Black Sabre-toothed Panther – The Bionic Hunter

    Dinosaurs were never extinct – they were moved! Several hundred specimens of dinosaur were abducted and taken to planet Yurok for genetic engineering…

    This is the latest version of a black panther crossed with a sabre-toothed tiger, its body is close to the human anatomy, but still has paws with claws.

    This dinomarine is darker then a shadow and has amazing stealth at night, its green and brown camouflage uniform helps it blend in with the forest environment.

    The Black Sabre-toothed Panther carries a wide range of gear with loads of army mechanisms inside, and has skulls of death to warn off its foes, it has been installed with a bionic arm of immense strength and has turbo discharging pulse ammunition.

    Black Sabre-toothed Panther – It will hunt you down!

  85. Neon Sequitur says:

    In a triumph of genetic engineering, numerous species of extinct theropods were reincarnated in the late-21st century, and the military applications of these creatures became apparent soon thereafter. Pictured here, Lieutenant Louis Cannon of the Dino-Marines air support unit prepares for a sortie with his companion “Tiny.”

  86. Decolda says:

    Royal Commander

    if their ever was a basic looking fighter with mad skills, this is it!
    This is the Royal Commander of the Terranious, he is in charge of the Dinomarines squad, his job: to raise the moral of his troops, to feed his hungry troops, to show his skills on the battle feild – with or without his massive heartless club hammer and to lead his troops into victory.

    The name says it all, smug, full of himself and a great warrior!

  87. Decolda says:

    (Axel the Dinomarine)

    In order to save humanity – you have to stop being human.

    Upgrade used to be a Dinomarine named Axel, his service was to make sure all dinosaur forms from all galaxies remained extinct.

    The soldiers either side of Axel were his lieutenants, the trio would take out whole planets of savage dino’s, but soon Axel started losing his mind, he started to think like a dinosaur…

    Axel signed up for the Dino-Extinctoid programme and invested in a new suit, a prototype called The Upgrade
    – soon his mind will be fully consumed by this prototype and he will be nothing more than a Cyborg, but until then – “Let’s make sure these dinosaurs, remain EXTINCT!”

  88. Gargoyle323 says:


    “DEAD-EYE” is a member of a secret co-ops branch of the DINO-
    MARINES. He is their top sniper and has never failed to complete a mission. When “DEAD-EYE” has you in his sights….
    you are about to become EXTINCT!

  89. Asherian says:

    Part of a theme, plan on doing more solider’s unit soon/later.
    In a bleak future resources are strapped, to avoid the mandatory separation at 50, a corps of grizzled elders volunteer to continue to man the line. With experimental cybernetic enhancements to strengthen their failing bodies, these soldiers represent humanities first offense against the threats of the galaxy.
    They are called dinosaur soldiers, from a time almost forgot.
    This is Lucin Bell, having been kept alive for the last two centuries she was one of the first volunteers for the program. She is always shadowed by her robotic mine detector, which she named after her daughter who died in the first Arcnihn attack of earth, Rosalli.

  90. haz says:

    Lance Corporal Elizabeth “Bug” Daleski:

    Works with Jones (my other entry). Genetically modified to colonize an inhospitable planet inhabited by hostile natives, Daleski “volunteered” for the Dinomarines project when evidence surfaced linking her with a number of instances of fire-related property damage. The nickname Bug (as in firebug) was born from her love of all things incendiary. While she originally joined the Dinomarines to avoid arson charges, she finds getting paid to rain fiery mayhem from above is a dream come true.

  91. Me, Myself & I says:

    Like any military, the Dinomarines need to repair their equipment. That is where Private Kubin comes in. He is the best mechanic the Dinomarines have.

    I tried posting this about 8 hours ago but it didn’t seem to take so I’m doing it again. Sorry if it gets duplicated.

  92. drummergirl4 says:

    LCpl Jeffery “Terra” Florez
    “Oh crap!”
    Look, up in the sky! It’s bird, it’s a…Wait, that’s not a bird!

    Cpl John “Velo” Lee
    “Die b*@#.”
    Is amused that his codename is the French word for bicycle. And that’s scary.

  93. Nick Hentschel says:


    You gave my sympathies: the program breaks down so much I have that much trouble just drawing!

    How’d you put Kubin’s shorts together? I’ve been trying to do that with the nurse for ages; it’s the only thing missing.

  94. Me, Myself & I says:

    @Nick Hentschel

    Here is a small little recipe for you.

  95. Nick Hentschel says:


    Well done! I never considered this; clearly, I need to be more inventive.

    I’ll perfect this drawing yet…..

  96. Me, Myself & I says:

    @Nick Hentschel

    Actually the pants, once you see the solution, are the easy part. The hair on the left side of his head was a lot harder. I think I have 10 or 12 different pieces of hair all re-sized and overlapping to cover that area.

    I am a glutton for punishment it seems.

  97. Nick Hentschel says:

    Okay, NOW it’s fianlly done!

    Twenty bucks says she’s dating the mechanic, and they share complaints about cleaning up after everyone else…..

  98. TerminusVitae says:

    sorry if i’m being a n00b, but is it okay to use a background that isn’t made in heromachine, and just paste your backgroundless heromachine .png’s on the background in whatever software suits your fancy? because my DinoMarines are quite elaborate, and just each on their own slows the heromachine down considerably, and I don’t even want to think about all of them together, plus a multi component background, plus patterning and such, until it becomes my only option.
    I also have a quite impressive back story according to my proofreading friend, and i am wondering what kind of word limits each post has on this forum.


  99. Dinomarine: Rolling Thunder Lizard

    (Yes, I know U.S. Marines don’t wear berets, but I really like this character. So 😛 ).

  100. @TerminusVitae: I post any backstory alongside the character on my website. As much as I enjoy writing and reading other people’s backstories, I don’t post them here for brevity.

    Just click some of my entries to see. (Yes, that was shameless self-promotion.)

  101. Gargoyle323 says:


    ROCKPILE is the DINOMARINES head communications officer.He is an expert in telecommunications and a computer wizard. He has extensive frontline experience,but spends most of his time now coordinating missions from the DINOMARINE Headquarters.

  102. TerminusVitae says:

    @Atomic Punk: i have and i like them, but i don’t happen to have anywhere i can post my story, unfortunately. although, i do have a deviantart account, and i remember seing a literature section somewhere over there. thanks for the advice, Punk, i’ll go investigate that now. in the mean time would you, or anyone else reading this for that matter, have any info for me about Jeff’s policies on non-HM backgrounds for contest submissions? because i’ve been working on this all week long and would hate to get disqualified on something like that.


  103. Jeff Hebert says:

    TerminusVitae (114): You can use something like Photoshop to assemble multi-character images if you like. I would prefer that you not use any non-HeroMachine images, though — the third party program should just be for assembling, cropping, etc.

  104. Nick Hentschel says:

    That reminds me, Jeff, that it would be nice if HM 3.0 had a function like that: cropping. There are components, for example, that I would have liked to “cut down,” in that way (e.g. various, tooth, tusk or fang components), to make them easier to use. I realize this is asking a lot, but it might very well do the job of the “Bits and Pieces” folder that someone suggested a few days ago. Just think of it as having TWO potential options; pick whichever’s easier.

    And if we can’t import non-HM components into an image, there’s something else we might consider: moving components between HM drawings. My efforts to draw and re-draw my character would have gone quicker if I’ve been able to import various “improvements” that I’d made in other drafts, instead of starting over. Or is there a way to do this, already, that I didn’t learn about?

  105. Galahad says:

    I made this particular picture 2 ways. I didn’t know which way to go with it. The first fits more with the Marines theme, but I kind of feel like it has a whole “Generic Soldier” feel to it. The second, while having a more unique character, doesn’t mesh with the soldier background. Either way, I figured I’d enter both.

  106. Dino and Marie!

    Wait, the contest is “Dinomarine”… :9

  107. Gargoyle323 says:


    “HEAVY METAL” is a Gunner Sgt. with the DINOMARINES. He is a big weapon specialist,with no weapon too big for him to use.
    When the call goes out for the big guns,let the”HEAVY METAL”
    thunder roar!

  108. Corporal Dean “Deano” Marino. Heavy Weapons Specialist.

  109. haz says:

    Sergeant Amy Arnez:

    Part of the team with Jones and Daleski. Arnez and company have been genetically modified to colonize an inhospitable planet inhabited by hostile aliens. Arnez handles much of the strategy side of things and keeps their equipment running. An engineer, she’s in charge of laying the foundation for the eventual colony. She’s also pretty good at blowing holes through angry lizards.

  110. Nick Hentschel says:

    Finally, a new character: has anyone considered an Archaeopteryx?

    patrolling the murky skies of the Shadow Continent is the aptly named Corporal Featherstone, a Dinomarine modified with the DNA (or “Di-NA,” as the soldiers have jokingly come to call it) of the very first bird.
    One of the advantages of the Dinomarines project is that it allowed physically unsuitable candidates for enlistment to be brought “up to snuff” by genteic modification. So it was with the 5’4″ Featherstone, whose small, light frame proved a good choice for the air. Now, endowed with the agility of the raptors, and the power of flight (at least at short range), Featherstone provides the Dinomarines with invaluable intelligence, a Forward Observer in the air. Dubbed “the One-Man Flying Circus” by the other troops, Featherstone has gotten himself not only into, but OUT OF more trouble in a day, than some soldiers see in a week.

    Also, I found myself dreaming up a title sequence for the Dinomarines cartoon last night: it came out somewhere between “Thundarr” and “GI Joe: The Movie,” with an opening of, “in the not-too-far future, disaster struck…” and then moving into an all-out “Yo Joe!” attack scene with all of the characters, We should dream that up!

  111. BlueMoon says:

    Entry #1: Private Rappy

    A new recruit into the Dino Marines, this young Velociraptor has no clue what he’s getting himself into. If the drill sergeant’s verbal beatings don’t kill him, the enemy surely will! But at least he’ll die alongside awesomeness!

    Entry #2: Adolfosaurus Rex

    Sworn enemy of the Dino Marines, Adolfosaurus Rex and his fearsome Mecha-Dinosaur-Nazis are the most vile villains in all the world! Armed with a massive ion cannon for an arm, and countless hidden laser guns, he is just as ruthless and brutal in killing the Dino Marines as he is killing the clearly inferior Stegosaurus race in his dreaded Cretaceous Concentration Camps. All fear Das Fuhrer!

  112. Gargoyle323 says:

    “STRETCH” is an advance scout and lookout for the DINOMARINES. He uses his height to tower above the trees to keep an eye out for the enemy.

  113. Fyzza says:
    Not really much of a Dinomarine but I’ll post it anyway.
    And don’t really have a backstory to add.

  114. MarcinMakaj says:

    Hello 🙂
    I made a disabled goblin master with his dino-warrior slave 🙂

  115. Gargoyle323 says:

    After years of experimentation with reptile DNA and remains from Dinosaur bones and fossils,the government was able to create the DINOMARINES. One species was code named:AQUA-SAURUS.They were outfitted with weapons and could remain under water for long periods of time. Controlled by computer chips placed in the cranium of these creatures, they were placed in hostile environments unfit for hosting human soldiers. They could be sent into ports for protection or could also be sent in to attack island bases of our enemies. The perfect weapons….The DINOMARINES!

  116. Rhinoman says:

    In the not so distant future…

    New Mexico
    DNA Reseacher,Darwin Charles, unveiled his answer to the ever escalating conflict in the Middle East. Sanctioned by the US Military, Charles was asked to produce a “Super Solider” to survive the harsh desert environs of the Middle East theater. Utilizing Dino DNA, spliced with human DNA he was able to produce a versatile, highly resiliant speciman. Affectionately known as “Grunt” this DINOMARINE is the first of many that will be sent to the desert. Armed with the latest weaponry and body armor “Grunt” is prepared to play an important part in ending the conflict.
    Future DINOMARINES will be highly trained in not only hand-to-hand combat, conventional weapons, and covert operations but tactics, surveillance and diplomacy.

    Here we see Mr. Charles (r) proudly standing next to his creation “Grunt.” Semper Fi!!

  117. Vejut says:

    Cpl. Jessie Schmitz, 87th Dinomarine, Air assault battalion, B company, and her pterosaur ‘Kitty’, posing for a reporter on night pest control maneuvers in New Guinea, one of the areas hardest hit by the resurgence of the dinosaurs caused by Dr. Paleotrope’s failed time travel machine. The tooth necklace hanging from the barrel of her 30mm grenade launcher mark her as being a veteran of some experience–traditionally, Dinomarines take a single tooth from the mouth of each opposing large dinosaur (wild or enemy mount) they down.$

  118. drummergirl4 says:

    Cpl Cynthia “Trinity” Risner
    “Don’t you touch him!”
    The ‘Pink Princess’ is not amused.

    Sgt Blake “Rex” Bopp
    Squad Leader
    “Let’s show these terrorists why we’re called ‘terrible lizards.'”
    Don’t make fun, he knows how to use that sword.

  119. Fyzza says:

    The Year: 2237
    Dean Jackson was an ordinary Marine in the Universal Marine Corps (UMC, colaboration of all the marine corps in the americas and western europe, as well as mariens from English-Speaking countries.
    This is when, on a training routine, Dean tripped on something, something unusual, that looked like a T-Rex or Allosaurus skull. The Marines dug it up, and it turned out it was a perfectly preserved Allosaurus fossil, but with it’s skin still on in some places, the first dinosaur fossil ever to have so. The United Scientists of Earth (USE) examined it, and handed it back to the UMC after 7 months. The UMC decided to do some resarch into it, and within 3 years, they had created the AM2239 armor, an armor inspired by the Allosaurus’s near indestrucable, impenatratable and unbreakble skin, exclusivley in use for 2350 of the the 1,450,800 UMC marines.
    Dean Jackson is one of those 2350. He is now the marine legend, nicknamed DinoMarine.

    With all armor and helmet
    Without secondary armor and helmet

  120. Galahad says:

    Sgt. Micheal “Bones” Jones

    The only thing Bones loves more than shooting stuff is himself! If he’s not cleaning his guns or gearing up for combat, he’s working out down at the beach. Even before the Dinomarines project beefed up his size and strength, Bones was all about muscle mass!