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3:33 pm
February 28, 2012
Offline10th-11th century… the Vikings would have been all over the place at that time, so why not Kairula too?
Alternatively (or, maybe also), Kairula could benefit from the presence of some Moors, who were thriving in Northern Africa and South-Western Europe around the same time. They could add some Norse (Runic) magic and Alchemy/Djinn summoning, respectively, to the mix. Maybe some of the Precolumbian or Native American cultures? Plenty of options
3:50 pm
February 28, 2012
OfflineAlso (because i had to comment the above before having actually read your updates
), i am now intrigued about the Nydigovia business. Now of course, this is your fantasy world, and you alone control the ratio of historic-speculation-to-pure-fiction, but, unless by complete chance, your choice of the year 101 AD would suggest you have some knowledge of the history of the region later known as Transylvania. And, if so, if you are acquainted with the Dacian/Getae tribes of Scythian descent living there, it would make much more sense for werewolves, rather than vampires, to have crossed over from that area. Just a thought
9:51 am
January 4, 2012
Offline@Ximero, I did look up some history on the internet to find out when Transylvania might have been invaded, and that's how I got the year. But I'm intrigued now: what's this about werewolves?
Also, thanks for the suggestions. I'd completely forgotten about the Vikings. Silly me. I'll add some right away.
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12:39 pm
February 28, 2012
OfflineGlad to have been of help with the Vikings
As for Transylvania, well it's only known (in pop culture) as Vampire HQ because of Bram Stoker's 'Dracula' novel of the late 19th century. Now Stoker simply did what most commercially successful fiction writers do, namely take a smattering of real-life data and wrap it around with thick layers of historic speculation, and especially his own sheer imagination (not dissing him, since i do that myself). He knew he needed a scary and seductive creature of the night, but more than anything else he needed a context to place it in. It was possibly by mere chance, his discovery of the Saxon chronicles about Vlad the Impaler aka "Dracul(e)a" before, say, those about 'Bloody Countess' Elizabeth Bathory, that the world now only thinks of Transylvania (and not Hungary, or Bohemia or various Slavic regions) when mentioning vampires (the genuine ones, not the sparkly ones). Plus, "Trans-sylvania", "The Land beyond the Forests" in Latin, does sound much more, well, Gothic and dungeony than other geographic names around it
But speaking of Latin, the year you found, 101, marks the beginning of the invasion by the Romans of what was the sizeable country of the Dacian tribes (called Getae by the Greeks), a land partly conquered, pillaged and reorganised after 2 consecutive wars (101-102 and 105-106 AD). By the mixture of Roman settlers with Dacian natives, you eventually got what today is known as the Romanian people (typically known as Wallachians in the Middle Ages), whose folklore does know of certain forms of vampirism (as does most of Eastern Europe), but wolves feature much more prominently therein, from your typical Moon-devouring werewolves (folk explanation for solar eclipses) to St. Andrew, the patron saint of Romania (yes, just like Scotland), being also the "guardian of the wolves". Sure, there's many animals that Romanians hold dear, and have historically fetishised, such as the aurochs (European buffalo) or various mountain eagles, but only wolves have their own saint (coincidentally… the patron saint of the entire country) and are most typically invoked in folk magic. And how would they not be, when, on one hand you had the Romans revering their Lupa Capitolina, surrogate mother for founder twins Romulus & Remus, while on the other, the Dacians with their infamous rattling battle-flag depicting a fantastic beast with a wolf's head and a dragon/fish's tail (it was shaped kinda like a windsock, so when the bearer ran with it in battle, the wind would cause it to roar, howl, etc., making it look rather frighteningly alive… you know, FX of the BC blockbusters…)
Okaaay… i've really been lecturing here *blush* But tl;dr: Transylvania would have been a Team Wolf, rather than a Team Vampire. But oh well, not ruling out overlaps, i guess
Er… hope this helped?
12:45 pm
January 4, 2012
OfflineThanks, Ximero. And yes, it is helpful, even though I knew some of it already from my research. I don't want werewolves to have come from Earth, though, or I'd definitely change it to that. If you read my page on Lupi (if you haven't already) you'll see I have a different origin story for them, that I like much better, so I'm not planning to either change it, or complicate things by having two different types of wolf-people. Anyway, my vampires had to come from somewhere, didn't they?![]()
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12:51 pm
February 28, 2012
Offline2:17 pm
January 4, 2012
OfflinePROGRESS UPDATE:
Added Vikings and Moors to the "Humans" History section. Thanks to Ximero for suggesting them, I'll look into the rest of your suggestions tomorrow. Or maybe the day after.
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12:20 pm
January 4, 2012
OfflinePROGRESS UPDATE:
Moved the "Human Magic" section to a separate page. I will add more detail, I promise! I also now need to delete the original entry on the Magic page and replace it with a link.
TO-DO LIST:
(These are in no particular order other than the first one which is my top priority.)
Sort out the "Human Magic" entry on the "Magic" page
Finish the "Human Magic" page info and add at least one more picture
Get pictures on the "Elves" page and finish off the info
Post a picture of a Fenris on the "Lupi and Vampires" page and finish off the info
Finish off the histories of the Dragons and Elves
Create the "Valheru" page
Create the "Eosi" page
Draw a map, scan it and upload it
Any suggestions of what else I need to do?
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1:36 pm
January 4, 2012
OfflinePROGRESS UPDATE:
Sorted out the "Magic" page (I hope).
Added pictures of Lupi and a Fenris, and finished off the Lupi information.
TO-DO LIST:
(In no particular order)
Finish the "Human Magic" page info and add at least one more picture
Get pictures on the "Elves" page and finish off the info
Finish the "Dragons" life cycle
Finish off the "Vampires" info and sort out the layout of the "Lupi" section
Finish off the histories of the Dragons and Elves
Create the "Valheru" page
Create the "Eosi" page
Draw a map, scan it and upload it
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10:53 am
January 4, 2012
OfflinePROGRESS UPDATE:
Created the "Valheru" page, added one picture and some info.
Added links to the "Valheru" and "Humans" pages on "Races of Kairula" for easier navigation.
TO-DO LIST:
(In no particular order)
Finish the "Human Magic" page info and add at least one more picture
Get pictures on the "Elves" page and finish off the info
Finish the "Dragons" life cycle
Finish off the "Vampires" info and sort out the layout of the "Lupi" section
Finish off the histories of the Dragons and Elves
Finish the "Valheru" page
Create the "Eosi" page
Draw a map, scan it and upload it
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2:34 pm
January 4, 2012
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No-one else has posted in the last 9 days? I would really like some feedback on how I'm doing…![]()
PROGRESS UPDATE:
Added some more info to the "Dragons" page. Not quite finished the Life Cycle, but I'm getting there. I'll add some pictures soon as well.
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3:22 pm
January 4, 2012
OfflinePlease visit http://kairula.wikispaces.com/ and tell me what you think! Please… ![]()
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5:32 pm
January 29, 2012
OfflineI really like it, I liked the idea so much that I've started on my own wiki, which I may reveal when it is more complete.
1:08 am
February 28, 2012
OfflineHi, Kaylin ![]()
No worries, you're not forgotten, nor is your work (just that "real life" tends to be a party-pooper like that sometimes and e.g. some of us need to finish their theses asap… i.e. by tomorrow OTL )
BUT
Good job on the Lupi – it's a nice touch how the natural ones are more in control of themselves/their abilities and have more natural social interactions (the Dom/sub relationships – err… not like that :p), which is a cool wink at that good-ol' "there are things man must not tamper with" (or Lupus, in this case). Now i just wonder what happens if, say, a berserking Fenris bites a dragon. (sorry if you've already made provisions for that and i've missed them).
As for the humans – cool, it seems Kairula's southern continent (name?) is turning into a little bit of our Middle East (you got some Jews and Egyptians already – uh oh, Moses situation about to go down… – now more Arabs got through
someone's gonna get all kinds of persecution complexes
). As for the Moorish settlement's name, i'd suggest الخارجية الجنة ([el-Halujee al-jin'nah], unless my ears deceive me, "Foreign Paradise"). After all, they were fairly into earthly paradises, and the pronunciation manages to sneak in some 'Jinn' element, so ![]()
Keep up the good work! ^^
p.s.: Yup, you've also inspired me with the wikipage, but i'm not sure it really works for me after all (not technologically, more like conceptually/stylistically. we'll see). Plus i haven't had much time to allot to that lately.
12:38 pm
January 4, 2012
OfflineThanks guys, it's good to know I haven't been forgotten.![]()
I need to add some more explanation on how the Fenris thing works, so I will answer that question. The probable answer, since dragons are like super-mega-lupi, is that the Fenris gets its head ripped off and the dragon is absolutely fine.![]()
I'm also planning to add in some Jinn, when I get the time, and I might put that name in somewhere…
I really need to make a map of these places so I can keep track of them!
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6:25 am
January 4, 2012
OfflinePROGRESS UPDATE:
Added a picture of a flying mage to the "Human Magic" page and written up the history of the Ancient Language on the same page.
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9:03 am
January 4, 2012
OfflinePROGRESS UPDATE:
Added more info to the "Eosi" and "Magic" pages.
Might have a map done in a few days.
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10:12 am
January 4, 2012
OfflineI did say might! I'm sorry, I still don't have a map. ![]()
However…
PROGRESS UPDATE:
I've updated "History of the Elves" (finally) with a better picture of the portal and a (tiny) bit more of the story. More to come soon. Check it out! http://kairula.wikispaces.com/…..+the+Elves
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12:59 am
February 28, 2012
OfflineHi, Kaylin. Been outta touch due to "real life" (pfft) butting in again (but hey, i got my phd, so whoohoo
and yay for being jobless…) *cough* anyway, wanted to congratulate you for the fine pieces of jewellery you created in that recent competition (the butterfly/fairy-wing-ish ones), they were some of my definite favourites in there
so keep up the good work.
I see you've also been getting some more stuff done on Kairula (will check the magic in a bit), so maybe you'd like to have a look at my recently created (second) collection on deviantArt – http://ximero.deviantart.com/ – where i intend to, time allowing, post some of the stuff i've been creating with HM (though the items i have there so far are just in Word). There's also a link to a 'fancier' website specifically made for my card game based on the above, but that one is still very much under construction.
And speaking of websites, without wishing to make it rain on your parade, you should be aware of this: http://forums2.battleon.com/f/…..m=17500549 – i know it's just a coincidence, but y'know, best to keep them clearly distinct (spelling tweaks or so), to prevent future legal entanglements.
Excelsior!
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11:53 am
January 4, 2012
OfflineActually, Ximero, it's not a coincidence. I used to play Adventure Quest, liked the name, and stole it. You're right, I should probably change it…but I've got attached to it now ![]()
I think I'll just try and come up with a slightly different spelling…hmm…![]()
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